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[janice.kamel 0]

Hi Everybody,

The first page of N400 Application, Part2- A- I have been a lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least five years.

if I check the box that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years and I send the application before 5 years (4 years and 9 months) is this legal or it's a lie because they will have my signature in the last page with the date, and they can check that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months and not 5 years!

many people they told me you can send before 5 years, can anyone explain please and thanks!

Faruq

[OKflyboy 35]

Yes, you can send it 3 months before the 5th anniversary. You will not be able to take the Oath until that date. Otherwise you're fine.

[HeatDeath 430]

You can file 90 days (3 months) before you meet the "I have been a permanent resident for X years" requirement, as long as all of the other requirements are met.

USCIS provide a worksheet in this document: http://www.uscis.gov/files/article/attachments.pdf

that you can work through to determine if you meet all of the other requirements as well.

You will notice the * on the page of the worksheet that discusses how long you need to have been a permanent resident.

Whether of not your are eligible to apply for naturalization depends on a lot more factors than any other USCIS process - hence the requirements worksheet. We don't have enough information about you to easily answer your question, but you should be able to figure it out fairly easily with this.

[v333k 59]

Not sure what the voting question is about - but if you lie and claim you have been a resident for 5 years when you are actually 4 years and 4 months (as in the voting question), then yes, you are definitely lying... however, they will send the application back notifying you that you are still ineligible.

[sharky 2]

AND you will have just lost $680 (the filing fee) because that is NON refundable!

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Like many things that have to do with USCIS, this is arbitrary when approached with reason and a textbook example of where intelligence can slow you down.

To make sense of this, your N-400 will not be adjudicated until you have met the residency requirements. So when the I.O. takes a look at your application, what you signed has become reality. Try to ignore that you had to pre-date it; we all did.

[NickD 203]

Have to send in a copy of your green card, if you changed the initial date on that, you will have problems. Can just see a 90 day beforehand calendar on the desk of that officer that opens your application

And 90 days means 90 days, can send it in a hundred years later, but not one day too soon, will be rejected. With the faster service in the N-400, many on this board received their interview before they met the 3 or 5 year requirement. But still had to wait unit they met that LPR card requirement before receiving their US certificate of citizenship. And there, they want to see your original green card.

Only rush I can see now for US citizenship is to get a federal job. But that is highly unlikely, with the recent economic problems, laying off government workers. Well another is if you planning on leaving the country for an extended period of time.

[janice.kamel 0]

Not sure what the voting question is about - but if you lie and claim you have been a resident for 5 years when you are actually 4 years and 4 months (as in the voting question), then yes, you are definitely lying... however, they will send the application back notifying you that you are still ineligible.

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The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that is a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

Hi Everybody,

The first page of N400 Application, Part2- A- I have been a lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least five years.

if I check the box that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years and I send the application before 5 years (4 years and 9 months) is this legal or it's a lie because they will have my signature in the last page with the date, and they can check that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months and not 5 years!

many people they told me you can send before 5 years, can anyone explain please and thanks!

Faruq

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The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that is a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

Yes, you can send it 3 months before the 5th anniversary. You will not be able to take the Oath until that date. Otherwise you're fine.

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The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that as a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

AND you will have just lost $680 (the filing fee) because that is NON refundable!

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The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that as a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

Not sure what the voting question is about - but if you lie and claim you have been a resident for 5 years when you are actually 4 years and 4 months (as in the voting question), then yes, you are definitely lying... however, they will send the application back notifying you that you are still ineligible.

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The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that as a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

Have to send in a copy of your green card, if you changed the initial date on that, you will have problems. Can just see a 90 day beforehand calendar on the desk of that officer that opens your application

And 90 days means 90 days, can send it in a hundred years later, but not one day too soon, will be rejected. With the faster service in the N-400, many on this board received their interview before they met the 3 or 5 year requirement. But still had to wait unit they met that LPR card requirement before receiving their US certificate of citizenship. And there, they want to see your original green card.

Only rush I can see now for US citizenship is to get a federal job. But that is highly unlikely, with the recent economic problems, laying off government workers. Well another is if you planning on leaving the country for an extended period of time.

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The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that as a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

[janice.kamel 0]

Yes, you can send it 3 months before the 5th anniversary. You will not be able to take the Oath until that date. Otherwise you're fine.

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The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that as a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

Like many things that have to do with USCIS, this is arbitrary when approached with reason and a textbook example of where intelligence can slow you down.

To make sense of this, your N-400 will not be adjudicated until you have met the residency requirements. So when the I.O. takes a look at your application, what you signed has become reality. Try to ignore that you had to pre-date it; we all did.

so you mean I can go ahead and send it before 5 years and I check check the part A- saying that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years and they won't consider it as a lie?

thanks for your help

[NickD 203]

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The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that as a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

so you mean I can go ahead and send it before 5 years and I check check the part A- saying that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years and they won't consider it as a lie?

thanks for your help

Your employment, address, and travel information is only good up to the time you sign your application at home, and that is good up to 90 days before you can send your application in.

Being paranoid on this, pick a date on the calendar when we can send in the application within that 90 day time frame, prefer using 88 days to be on the safe side and that is the date we put on the application and send it off on that same date so the postmark will be the same. At your interview, you will be questioned about any changed within that 90 day time frame. Ha, even if you decided to join the Nazi party in 1933 since filing your application or decides to earn a living by becoming a prostitute. That offended my wife.

Then at your oath ceremony, if not the same day, asked some of those questions again about any changes.

In the case of my stepdaughter, just going back five years from the date of the application, only had two addresses, so that hasn't changed since the day she was born. She couldn't travel, her biological father wouldn't sign for her passport, but had many small part time jobs, so that was problem for her to figure out those dates. She did wait over five years before applying, but it was the same thing for her if she did apply 90 days sooner. What she did between the time her application went in and her interview, and the same thing again between her interview and oath ceremony.

Did affect one woman here with the three year, her husband died between the interview and oath ceremony, so she was denied her certificate. Had to wait another two years.

[janice.kamel 0]

HI everybody

The question is:

N-400 Application for naturalization - Page 1 - Part 2 - Information About Your Eligibility:

A()- I have been lawful permanent resident of the United States for at least 5 years.

if I check this then I sign the last page number 10 part 11- with date of signature

will be a contradiction that I'm saying at that date of my signature that I have been in the U.S at least 5 years but if they check they will find that I have been in the U.S 4 years and 9 months.

do they will reject it or they will accept it and they do not consider it that as a lie?

this is my question. and I knew that many people they sent their applications before 5 years!?

Thanks a lot of your help.

[v333k 59]

You keep asking the same question! It doesn't seem that you believe the consistency of what everyone is telling you... therefore, I recommend you wait the three months and file your application once you have truely been a resident for 5 years. This will put your mind at ease.

There are hundreds of people who have applied based on the 90 days rule and have logged their information here on VJ and not a single person has reported an issue with an early application.

[janice.kamel 0]

Your employment, address, and travel information is only good up to the time you sign your application at home, and that is good up to 90 days before you can send your application in.

Being paranoid on this, pick a date on the calendar when we can send in the application within that 90 day time frame, prefer using 88 days to be on the safe side and that is the date we put on the application and send it off on that same date so the postmark will be the same. At your interview, you will be questioned about any changed within that 90 day time frame. Ha, even if you decided to join the Nazi party in 1933 since filing your application or decides to earn a living by becoming a prostitute. That offended my wife.

Then at your oath ceremony, if not the same day, asked some of those questions again about any changes.

In the case of my stepdaughter, just going back five years from the date of the application, only had two addresses, so that hasn't changed since the day she was born. She couldn't travel, her biological father wouldn't sign for her passport, but had many small part time jobs, so that was problem for her to figure out those dates. She did wait over five years before applying, but it was the same thing for her if she did apply 90 days sooner. What she did between the time her application went in and her interview, and the same thing again between her interview and oath ceremony.

Did affect one woman here with the three year, her husband died between the interview and oath ceremony, so she was denied her certificate. Had to wait another two years.

Thanks a lot that was helpful, I will send it now and everything will be fine 89 days :-D

Thanks everybody.

[M.Add 5]

Form M-480 (1st page, at the bottom)

"* Naturalization applicants may file their applications 90 days before they have satisfied the "continuous residence" requirement"

Reading this fantastic forum the only thing i've learned (from other members experience) is that you won't have your OATH before you've been a resident for 5 years!!!

You know, nobody is rushing you to apply for citizenship before the "5 year anniversary", believe me when it comes to immigration waiting 3 months means nothing!

Edited July 20, 2011 by M.Add

[curioustoknow 2]

you can send your application if you become resident for 4 years and 9months. (you can apply 90 days before your reach your 5yrs of residence).

hope my answer help you