Filing Heavily Front Loaded I-!30-Will all documentation be "kept"

[FoundNanning 0]

I am filing a "heavily front loaded" I-130 with lots of bona-fide marriage material. The total is about 300 pages. I have read in some places that all this information will be scanned and eventually make it to the embassy (China). Others have said that all of it will NOT go.

After NOA2 I will do electronic processing. Will it be necessary for me to scan all this bona-fide relationship documentation and send it again to assure that it makes to to the embassy?

Edited July 13, 2011 by LeonS

[Adil & Jeanne 296]

Really you don't send all this until it is asked for. and no, the RFE and evidence are kept at USCIS and a new packet is needed for NVC and then a new packet for embassy.

but they do look at the evidence at embassy to compare what they recieve from NVC.

[FoundNanning 0]

Still confused. Front-loading advocates state that front-loading gets your relationship information to the embassy where it can be reviewed prior to the interview. Yet others imply that (extra) information sent with I-130 may not be available/forwarded to embassy unless it is sent after NOA2.

So, if I choose to front-load now, do I need to scan/send it again after NOA2?

[magdasal 19]

Still confused. Front-loading advocates state that front-loading gets your relationship information to the embassy where it can be reviewed prior to the interview. Yet others imply that (extra) information sent with I-130 may not be available/forwarded to embassy unless it is sent after NOA2.

So, if I choose to front-load now, do I need to scan/send it again after NOA2?

Actually, except for the forms themselves, everything you send in with the USCIS package is a copy...don't send originals, as they aren't needed. So go ahead and frontload...and use copies and you don't care whether you get it back or not. Original docs are sent with the DS-230 package at the NVC stage (but not the same kinds of stuff...marriage license (certified copy will do), police clearances..that stuff is original and should make it to the embassy). For the interview, your wife should have the originals (or certified copies) of everything sent in the USCIS package.

[Darnell 8,478]

Front loading is specific to China and Vietnam.

I'd pay attention to replies from folks from those 2 countries, or follow their posts over the last year.

Good Luck !

[Robby999 1,024]

I would send a front loaded petition to USCIS, but would only send what they ask for at NVC! NVC is only going to want your AOS documentation and I-864, then they will want all of your wife's civil documents and DS-230 , and do not forget the infamous GUZ 3 supplement page. You might be wanting to get used to scanning and reducing file sizes for electronic processing ! I would only send files 10mb or less. I sent some that were 25mb and the system would not accept them. When you are getting close to the end of NVC, I would ship all of the originals of the front-loaded evidence to my wife in China, just in case the evidence did not catch the train to NVC. She can turn that evidence in at the document hand- in the day before her interview. You would not be introducing new evidence because that evidence was originally submitted with your I-130. Good Luck

[pushbrk 12,910]

Still confused. Front-loading advocates state that front-loading gets your relationship information to the embassy where it can be reviewed prior to the interview. Yet others imply that (extra) information sent with I-130 may not be available/forwarded to embassy unless it is sent after NOA2.

So, if I choose to front-load now, do I need to scan/send it again after NOA2?

This front-loading (sometimes) advocate agrees that prudent front-loading gets relationship information to the Consular Officer where it can be reviewed prior to the interview. However, if you send 300 pages, you have no control over whether ANY of your front-loading gets reviewed by anybody and if any does, it may or may not be what you think is most important. I would limit the extra to 20 or 30 pages of what you REALLY think will help address red flags in your case. If no red flags, limit it even more. Think "examples".

Edited July 13, 2011 by pushbrk

[Ryan H 3,812]

Leon,

I had the same dilemma you did a short time ago, I asked about it on CFL and based on the replies I received there, I am going to echo the advice Robby gave you about the NVC.

As for the infamous supplement page, you can find it here.

I also found the following suggestion about it from pushbrk:

Also, if you or a friend have the full version of Adobe Acrobat, you can simply copy and paste the information into the GZ supplement yourself. It need not be signed. I know there's a place for a signature and you can send it to her and have her scan back the signed version for belt and suspenders if you want but I assure you a signature on the supplement is NOT needed. It's just the last chance to get the Chinese characters they need.

I followed this suggestion (went to the library to use a computer with the full version of Acrobat) and made a form with fields that I will fill in when the time comes.

Robby, thanks for the info regarding 10mb or less, I has that same question and you answered it.

Edited July 13, 2011 by Ryan H

[Robby999 1,024]

I had the same problem with the GUZ 3 supplement sheet. Here recently I purchased a program called PDFill, costs 19.95 and was worth every penny. Very useful for completing PDF forms that do not have fillable fields!

[FoundNanning 0]

Thanks all!!!! RE: Assembly of the I-130 Package itself (esp. if its a large one):

I'm going to paperclip small amounts (10 pages or less) of "common" documents/sections together, and use a large ACCO clip for larger sets of documents/sections. I will put removable Post-it Tabs on each section (in case they need to be removed for scanning.

My 2 questions beyond this about assembly of the package is this:

1) I will have 12-15 "sections". Should I put a "cover sheet" on each section stating what it is?

2) After I have a "pile" of all the sections, what to to to "attach" them all together. Put large elastics around them and then in a box for shipment?

Any other "hints" on assembly of a big petition?

[Anh map 2,098]

This front-loading (sometimes) advocate agrees that prudent front-loading gets relationship information to the Consular Officer where it can be reviewed prior to the interview. However, if you send 300 pages, you have no control over whether ANY of your front-loading gets reviewed by anybody and if any does, it may or may not be what you think is most important. I would limit the extra to 20 or 30 pages of what you REALLY think will help address red flags in your case. If no red flags, limit it even more. Think "examples".

Send quality rather than quantity. Would you want to read through 300 "extra" pages?

[pushbrk 12,910]

Thanks all!!!! RE: Assembly of the I-130 Package itself (esp. if its a large one):

I'm going to paperclip small amounts (10 pages or less) of "common" documents/sections together, and use a large ACCO clip for larger sets of documents/sections. I will put removable Post-it Tabs on each section (in case they need to be removed for scanning.

My 2 questions beyond this about assembly of the package is this:

1) I will have 12-15 "sections". Should I put a "cover sheet" on each section stating what it is?

2) After I have a "pile" of all the sections, what to to to "attach" them all together. Put large elastics around them and then in a box for shipment?

Any other "hints" on assembly of a big petition?

You have far too much. Think "envelope" not "box".

[Robby999 1,024]

Thanks all!!!! RE: Assembly of the I-130 Package itself (esp. if its a large one):

I'm going to paperclip small amounts (10 pages or less) of "common" documents/sections together, and use a large ACCO clip for larger sets of documents/sections. I will put removable Post-it Tabs on each section (in case they need to be removed for scanning.

My 2 questions beyond this about assembly of the package is this:

1) I will have 12-15 "sections". Should I put a "cover sheet" on each section stating what it is?

2) After I have a "pile" of all the sections, what to to to "attach" them all together. Put large elastics around them and then in a box for shipment?

Any other "hints" on assembly of a big petition?

I am with Anh map and pushbrk on the size of the front loaded petition, the people you are sending this to are government employees. How many times do you think they will draw straws to see who gets to process the Webster Dictionary! I believe the bigger the petition the longer to process. Like Anh map said quality trumps quantity. I would think that a larger petition is at greater risk of getting thinned out verses a normal/average size petition. That could mean longer processing time while they decide what they want to keep and what gets tossed!

[Darnell 8,478]

just for quick review, this is what i set up on my bundle - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=218775&st=0&p=3324240&hl=Rusticentry3324240

but I've reworked it a bit, and made the EOR one of the driving documents - http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=260331&view=findpost&p=3995116

One of the things that I'll suggest to anyone, is that IF you have red flags, is best to address them in the I-130 submittal, briefly in a one page letter, then for each red flag, a letter of attestation about it.

But hey, that's just me for my petition - everyone is different on this. I think if you cover:

--trips

--method of communication

--red flags

--financial co-mingling

--wedding party (optional)

Then yer golden.

Edited July 14, 2011 by Darnell

[britishspouse 1]

I am filing a "heavily front loaded" I-130 with lots of bona-fide marriage material. The total is about 300 pages. I have read in some places that all this information will be scanned and eventually make it to the embassy (China). Others have said that all of it will NOT go.

After NOA2 I will do electronic processing. Will it be necessary for me to scan all this bona-fide relationship documentation and send it again to assure that it makes to to the embassy?

300 pages? WOWZA !!

I think aside from the forms themselves we sent in maybe 10-20 extra sheets/documents lol.

I too believe in not sending too much, because the more you send, the more they have to go through, plus higher chance for questions popping up. But on the otherhand i guess if you dont send enough you might get an RFE.

Read what others have sent, dont overload the USCIS folks though heheh.