Jump to content

6 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
Timeline
Posted

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0709/Social-Security-the-political-monster-that-lurks-in-debt-talks

Social Security: the political monster that lurks in debt talks

By Mark Trumbull, Staff writer / July 9, 2011

Long a proverbial "third rail" that politicians feared to touch, Social Security has suddenly emerged as a possible part of bipartisan talks aimed at stabilizing America's public debt.

Arguably no federal program is more politically sensitive, yet finance experts say Social Security needs some restructuring to remain solvent for the long term.

In recent days, the program has appeared to shift from "off the table" to possibly on the chopping block as part of a grand bargain on federal finances.

Some political analysts are praising President Obama for expressing a willingness to think big and discuss the toughest issues – Social Security, Medicare, tax reform – as part of the bipartisan talks over conditions under which Congress would raise the debt limit to allow more federal borrowing.

But he also faces an outcry from groups seeking to defend Social Security and from liberal members of Congress, many of whom don't want to touch entitlement programs before the next election.

"I am especially disturbed that the president is considering cuts in Social Security after he campaigned against cuts in 2008," Sen. Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent, said this week. He cited a statement that Barack Obama made on the 2008 campaign trail, pledging not to tinker with cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs) in the program.

Changing the way inflation is measured, to reduce the annual rise in senior benefits, has emerged as one of the leading ideas of budget experts on how to fix the program. But there are other options: slowly raising the eligibility age for benefits, reducing benefits for high-income retirees, and asking high-income workers to pay more into the program through the payroll tax.

Not everyone agrees on the semantics of calling the COLA change a "cut" in Social Security. Proponents cast it as a shift to a more accurate gauge of inflation – and a change that could be applied to some other federal programs to help ease future budget deficits.

But even under the current system, many seniors feel that cost-of-living adjustments haven't been keeping pace with the prices they face – including on health care expenses not covered by Medicare or Medicaid.

The uproar over the issue is a reminder of what a political monster entitlement reform is for politicians. There's much to lose from talking about changes that often amount to tax hikes or reductions in benefits.

At the same time, there's also a scenario in which politicians could gain in public esteem, if a grand bargain for reform is well-crafted, carefully sold to the public, and draws enough bipartisan support that members of both political parties leap over the coals of controversy together.

The world didn't come to an end – nor did the Democratic or Republican Party – in the early 1980s when President Reagan and House Speaker Tip O'Neill struck a bargain to mend Social Security's finances.

Polls show that voters, while not plugged into all the details of government finance, are aware that there aren't easy and cost-free fixes for the nation's fiscal challenges. Ideas like cuts in Social Security benefits or a hike in the retirement age are unpopular, though, so it's little wonder that politicians tread near this issue at their peril.

Because Social Security can also point to money from prior-year surpluses in its "trust fund," many lawmakers argue that the debate about Social Security should be kept separate from the current talks about debt ceilings and deficits.

"Social Security has not contributed one nickel to our deficit or our national debt," Senator Sanders said Thursday.

Critics of a new COLA system say it will amount to a penalty for longevity. They cite estimates from the Social Security Administration's chief actuary that a typical beneficiary would get $560 less a year at age 75 than they would under current law. By age 85 that person would get $1,000 less per year.

But the longevity issue hints at why, sooner or later, changes to the program are needed. Already, the program is at a point where its payments to beneficiaries are starting to outstrip its payroll-tax intake.

"Since Social Security was first enacted, vast changes have occurred in the economy, life expectancy, health care, [and] the physical demands of jobs," among other things, said Eugene Steuerle, an Urban Institute policy expert, at a congressional hearing Friday. "Yet we often debate Social Security as if the type of system we want in 2080 should be determined by perceptions and measures of needs of a society in 1930."

He proposes that, rather than simply view the problem as a budgetary one, Congress try strengthening the program's finances while also taking steps to improve the economy and the income security of seniors. In Mr. Steuerle's view, the steps could include:

• Restricting automatic growth in benefits for the least needy beneficiaries.

• Adjusting benefits so they encourage employment and are concentrated more in older ages.

• Reforming private pensions so they join Social Security as a solid pillar of support, "to protect the majority of workers who today end up with little in the way of private retirement benefits."

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
Timeline
Posted

Bernie is right.

He is right. SS reform should be a separate discussion from overall budget reform, which should be separate from what ought to be a routine raising of the Debt Ceiling to make good on spending that has already been approved in the past. These are all 3 separate topics.

Nonetheless, if Bernie was implying by that statement that SS doesn't need to be reformed, then he's wrong. It's on a track to insolvency in its current structure. So while we should have an orderly process of dealing with these topics separately, we don't. Due to the way Washington horse trading works, the only way we're going to get a deal is by lumping them all together - as Obama is trying to do with the 'Large' $4T deal Boehner just walked out on. By putting them all together the pain and sacrifice get spread around to everyone. That's the political process, for better or worse, and Bernie is outside the mainstream on this one by not realizing it.

Filed: Timeline
Posted
Nonetheless, if Bernie was implying by that statement that SS doesn't need to be reformed, then he's wrong.

I don't think he implied that at all. Bernie is not blind. He knows that the demographics present a real challenge to Social Security and that that challenge needs to be dealt with. It isn't the first time that was dealt with - Reagan did it back in the mid 80's. But then, there was a Republican party in those days that wasn't enslaved to insanity.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Thailand
Timeline
Posted

I don't think he implied that at all. Bernie is not blind. He knows that the demographics present a real challenge to Social Security and that that challenge needs to be dealt with. It isn't the first time that was dealt with - Reagan did it back in the mid 80's. But then, there was a Republican party in those days that wasn't enslaved to insanity.

I agree with you. On all points above.

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...