I-751 - Insufficient Evidence Letter

[rickynlucy 0]

Is she listed as your emergency contact at work or at the doctor?

Send copies of the joint phone bills for every few months.

Your phone company may be able to give you transcripts of your texts if you send each other loving msgs.

Can you show your tax bill or other obligations were credited or paid from your joint account?

Can you show that you're listed as being financially responsible for her medical or dental care?

[Sergi9 110]

alas, on paper, you two as a married couple, don't exist. ROC primilary seeks to reveal your financial co-mingling - as is, you not really have proof of that.

Don't fret so much, though.

re: utilities that you do pay to the parents -

get a receipt book at the local office supply store, create 2 years of receipts with the parents, have both names put on the receipts (you and yer wife) re: rental agreement, lack of -

explain in brief your living situation with the parents, list the duration as well.

re: joint bank account, lack of -

explain in brief why the two of you not have a joint bank account.

re: health insurance - show it.

Good Luck !

I would STRONGLY advise against manufacturing evidence in this scenario. A better solution would be an explanation letter regarding your living arrangements and affadavit signed by both parents.

Also address the co-mingling of funds issue and utility bills in this scenario. If you are paying your parents it makes sense to pay them using your joint checking account. It appears you have a joint bank account, provide additonal statemets.

If you have had medical bills the address should be on the bills, if you pay in person ask for the bills and copies of the records listing your address.

Go on Free Credit Report.com or similar site and run a credit report on each of you which should support your explanation the lack of co-mingling is simply you don't have many/any open lines of credit. Alternately you can apply for a loan somewhere jointly and they will run a joint report on you that you might be able to get a copy of.

Your best source of evidence without making stuff up as ID cards don't prove anything except you went and ordered them last week in response to RFE... is affadavits from people who know you and have knowledge of the relationship.

They should discuss where you are living, or mention and event they attended at your home, or you attended as a couple at thiers .. that type of thing. They could also mention if they attended your wedding or engagement party etc. As long as various documents span the length of the marriage it does not necessarily have to be financial related if you provide explanation of lack of money is the reason there is not much "co-mingling" evidence.

If you filled out anything at work regarding selection as "married" such as insurance declination letter or w4 claiming multiple dependents etc that would be helpful.

Pictures from the vacation you mentioned and the reciepts from the hotel for two people would be good as well as any other evidence from the trip.

[w0rryw0rt 0]

Great advice, Sergi9. Thank you very much. Would you recommend to notarize those or any affidavits?

[Sergi9 110]

Great advice, Sergi9. Thank you very much. Would you recommend to notarize those or any affidavits?

If its easy to do then do it, if not then have them sign it. Have everyone put address, and contact information such as work and cell #'s

good luck

[TMAG 0]

If its easy to do then do it, if not then have them sign it. Have everyone put address, and contact information such as work and cell #'s

good luck

Great Idea

[TBoneTX 45,309]

Sergi's ideas regarding the affidavits are excellent, si man. Consider people who know you and who have "standing" in the community: ministers, policemen, ex-military personnel... anyone similar. The affidavits can end with a statement to the effect of "Under penalty of perjury, I attest that the foregoing statements are true and accurate." Otherwise, make sure that everyone knows the correct spellings of your names, the dates when things happened (the marriage, for example), and other facts -- but let them write the rest of it in their own words. Their full contact information is very important, si man.

Your situation is exactly why affidavits are suggested for ROC filers whose evidence is thin... and why those who have ample evidence don't really need them.

Edited to add: Please construct your VJ timeline, si man. And, congratulations on your obviously having survived and overcome the ####### Guayaquil consulate.

Edited July 9, 2011 by TBoneTX

[Hannah+Vito 0]

Thank you very much for your helpful reply... We were thinking of getting ID cards tomorrow, but would they care if the cards were obtained just now as opposed to the beginning of our life together in the US? Also, I don't think we have time to get a secured credit card under our names and send it to them by July 30th.

On the plus side, we are part of a family plan! (along with 3 other relatives)

I don't work either....i'm not on the lease nor do i drive or have a id card.....

this is what we sent in...

IRS tax transcripts for both years we were married and able to file jointly (even though i don't work we still Filed joint both times)

joint bank account statements a selection spanning the two years together....I may not earn the money that goes in there but my names on there and i have a right to it..that means something to uscis...if it wasn't a genuine relationship then they obviously believe my hubby wouldn't allow me access to that money.

I'm not on the lease still its in mil and hubby's name and so are all bills however i'm an authorized user on my hubby's credit card and my name is next to my number on the family plan in his and mils name so i have submitted a selection of those bills over the past few years...

if we took a trip together and there is evidence in photo form, bill form, receipt of or airline ticket i sent it..especially if it showed seats together or same room number. also dates on those things are good.

have you ever applied for credit together and got rejected? or applied for anything together and got rejected..perhaps show those letters if you still have them...you may not have the joint assets but it would show you tried to get get it together..

and that you don't have it is not your choice but another parties.

photos i sent a few in...

health insurance...i sent it in...I know you don't have the standard stuff but what is the one you do have? does it have paperwork showing you are both using it together? at same address?

any joint health blls like dentist where you are billed together? i sent a couple in myself. as we rarely have joint bills..of anything

I didn't write an affidavit about the lack of joint lease this time because its the same place we were at at aos and we explained that in our interview. so hopefully it will be in our notes. And wont be required to explain a second time.

any envelopes or cards to you both? not just bills or financial mail but just general joint mail?

that's all i can think of about 50 % of my list revolved around health insurance and another 40% on trips we had taken.

[Hannah+Vito 0]

Thanks! We were thinking of asking relatives and also neighbors that know us very well... My parents and I split the utility bills, rent, cable, etc. but unfortunately there's no legit proof of that. Would it help if I have them write a letter acknowledging that?

@nycfeng: Thank you! ...We sent copies of my income taxes, a copy of the earliest monthly statement of our joint account, random pictures (including the religious ceremony), a copy of an anniversary card, and a copy of our religious certificate of marriage.

assuming your joint account has existed for more than one month I would send more...I sent 8 for a two year period...that could be over kill for some..but i just dived the past two years up into quaters and made sure there was a bank statement for each quater to show it was more than a one off thing.

[w0rryw0rt 0]

Hi everyone! Thank you very, very much for all your help! I've been ridiculously busy over the past few weeks to stop by.

Im getting ready to send in my evidence tomorrow, and this is what i'm sending:

-Copy of her ID card and my temp. ID print-out card.

-Family Plan bills (nameless, only phone numbers)

-Affidavits signed by my mother, my aunt, and our neighbor/friend.

-A letter from my father explaining our Rent/Utilities agreement.

-A letter by me explaining our current economic situation and therefore lack of many pieces of joint financial evidence.

-Our hospital insurance. The papers dont say we have joint insurance, but it shows i'm listed as her emergency contact.

-Itinerary/vouchers of our recent trip to the Caribbean.

-Hotel reservation on our anniversary.

-A letter from our parish stating we're good standing members and both are godparents of a child.

-2 cards from a casino with our names on it (cant hurt Lol)

How does it look?

[trillium13 84]

It definitely looks better than what you had before. I personally would re-send anything you've already sent so it's all in one place. Do you have taxes filed jointly? Have you had any joint accounts during your marriage? I know you mentioned a joint account but I'm a little confused about it.

Also, if your family plan doesn't have your names on it, you may need to explain this to them.

[w0rryw0rt 0]

Thanks!

I'm about to send it out now. Extremely nervous!

[deus360 9]

I am going to be honest with you here, u are going to probably get called for a second interview, and sometimes in those interviews they separate people to compare answer and see if they are not lying about their marriage to get a GC. This interview can be traumatic; they are not like the first interview. The reality here is that you should had have more evidence, I truly don’t get how 2 people can get married and have no financial viable future. But well, here is my advice, after you sent your info start opening joint bank account and joint gas bills; tell your dad to transfer those bills on both your names fast, before a possible second letter comes to you. This letter will probably give you a date for the second interview. This is interview normally is like 3 month from the moment you get the later but the time can be relative. Also, if u have a car try transferring the car to your wife, so that it becomes a joint asset. USCIS looks for joint assets more than anything else. Telling the truth here, affidavits are not that import for the USCIS because family and friends tend to lie easily to help friend, and the USCIS knows this. On the other hand the joint assets are very good for the USCIS, because normally fraudulent people that commit marriage fraud tend not to have joint, because they don’t trust each other with money, and the USCIS also knows this. That’s why I am advising you to get joint asset before you get a probable second interview.

Edited July 26, 2011 by deus360

[TBoneTX 45,309]

If you had a timeline, I could perhaps suggest the following with more authority: The only response that many of us would need in an AOS Stokes interview is this: "If this relationship were fraudulent, we never would have made it out of the ####### Guayaquil consulate."

[rika60607 215]

What a treat. Are you often dishonest?

I am going to be honest with you here,

[deus360 9]

What a treat. Are you often dishonest?

The reasoning you are using here is very simplistic. Are you a simpleton?

Well… Not really but apparently a lot of people on this forum are not stating the obvious. This is that he could get a second interview with so little evidence. If you truly want to be nice with someone you say truth not only what sounds nice.

Edited July 27, 2011 by deus360