Testing produce for deadly pathogens: nothing but another wasteful government program.

[Zero Sum 305]

Yay for choice!

Because all pathogens are washable off of foods, this is yet another example of government intruding into our personal lives.

I wonder how we can manage to wash the internal content of fruits, veggies, milk, cheese, meats, eggs, etc.

[mawilson 2,133]

Is it? If no, why do we need this agency? If yes, ws it bcause of this agency? What did they do to make our food safer? How would it not be safer if they were now eliminated. Cause and affect anaysis.

They have a web site, you can read their reports if you're really interested in what they do.

MDP data are important in developing baseline levels of targeted pathogens in the domestic food supply. The data is used to identify microbial trends and to develop risk models.

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They have a web site, you can read their reports if you're really interested in what they do.

MDP data are important in developing baseline levels of targeted pathogens in the domestic food supply. The data is used to identify microbial trends and to develop risk models.

All Gary hears is "yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah big government alert save me obi wan you're our only hope!"

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

They have a web site, you can read their reports if you're really interested in what they do.

MDP data are important in developing baseline levels of targeted pathogens in the domestic food supply. The data is used to identify microbial trends and to develop risk models.

Would washing fruits and vegetables help? How did we survive without these reports 10 years ago?

[mawilson 2,133]

Would washing fruits and vegetables help? How did we survive without these reports 10 years ago?

*You* survived. Some people didn't.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

*You* survived. Some people didn't.

I am lucky I guess. We have such a problem of people dying from eating fruits and vegetables in this country. Right? Since when?

[mawilson 2,133]

I am lucky I guess. We have such a problem of people dying from eating fruits and vegetables in this country. Right? Since when?

If this program saved even one person since 2001, it's worth the cost.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

If this program saved even one person since 2001, it's worth the cost.

Foodborne illness affects thousands of people each year and costs billions of dollars. The cost of reducing the cases ought to be looked at in this context. I'll admit that it's more than the simple minds can muster so they'll just keep on babbling about washing them fruits.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

If this program saved even one person since 2001, it's worth the cost.

Did it? Who?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Foodborne illness affects thousands of people each year and costs billions of dollars. The cost of reducing the cases ought to be looked at in this context. I'll admit that it's more than the simple minds can muster so they'll just keep on babbling about washing them fruits.

I do not deny their are food borne illnesses, again you are trying to argue something that is not being argued. The question is how much of this is prevented by this government spending of money confiscated from my pay? Any? What are the results after 10 years? Less cases of illness? More? Any charts to show us? Have they developed something more simple and effective than washing fruits? Do they suggest we do not need to wash fruits and vegetables? For 10 years effort and all that confiscated money there ought to be a chart.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I do not deny their are food borne illnesses, again you are trying to argue something that is not being argued. The question is how much of this is prevented by this government spending of money confiscated from my pay? Any? What are the results after 10 years? Less cases of illness? More? Any charts to show us? Have they developed something more simple and effective than washing fruits? Do they suggest we do not need to wash fruits and vegetables? For 10 years effort and all that confiscated money there ought to be a chart.

Dude, the few pennies that go towards that program coming from your pay couldn't save a lab rat.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Dude, the few pennies that go towards that program coming from your pay couldn't save a lab rat.

Exactly, so give me back my pennies, and everyone else's and shut down this piece of trash waste and let the scientists work for someone that expects results and profits...or go on welfare. Some people make their best contribution to society by being on welfare and staying out of the way.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Exactly, so give me back my pennies, and everyone else's and shut down this piece of trash waste and let the scientists work for someone that expects results and profits...or go on welfare. Some people make their best contribution to society by being on welfare and staying out of the way.

You worship at the altar of corporate greed which you claim will make everything so much better despite there not being a shred of evidence to support that stance.

[faust-yusov 103]

Exactly, so give me back my pennies, and everyone else's and shut down this piece of trash waste and let the scientists work for someone that expects results and profits...

Notions utterly inimical to the scientific method, of which you appear entirely ignorant.

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[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Yay for choice!

Because all pathogens are washable off of foods, this is yet another example of government intruding into our personal lives.

I wonder how we can manage to wash the internal content of fruits, veggies, milk, cheese, meats, eggs, etc.

So the government is washing the internal content of fruits, veggies, milk, cheese, eggs, etc.? How?

I have asked, simply, what are they doing and no one can answer or give a chart. No one can show that they have reduced food borne illness, no one can suggest that anything has been accomplished. Anyone?

Notions utterly inimical to the scientific method, of which you appear entirely ignorant.

Really? So scientists cannot produce anything which is marketable for a profit? Is that your position?