Polish lawmakers move closer to banning abortions altogether, even for women who were raped, are carrying deformed babies or face health risks.

[Fandango 1,440]

An unborn has no "moral value".

Whoa.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Whoa.

Whoa what?

Well before you get all carried away, perhaps you should consider what is meant by "moral value".

I took it to mean a right to life? There is no such thing if the woman does not want to have the baby.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Whoa what?

Well before you get all carried away, perhaps you should consider what is meant by "moral value".

I took it to mean a right to life? There is no such thing if the woman does not want to have the baby.

Oh quit it with the games.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Oh quit it with the games.

Asking you to clarify your ambiguity is not a game.

Throwing out made-up numbers and calling them statistics certainly is. Perhaps you should quit it?

[_Simpson_ 250]

Asking you to clarify your ambiguity is not a game.

Throwing out made-up numbers and calling them statistics certainly is. Perhaps you should quit it?

How long do you want to dance around the moral aspect of this issue which you already know for many this is what is at the heart of this issue.

I got to go.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How long do you want to dance around the moral aspect of this issue which you already know for many this is what is at the heart of this issue.

I got to go.

The moral aspect of the issue does not involve forcing women to undergo unwanted pregnancies just because you have a guilty conscience about it.

[Danno 1,228]

The moral aspect of the issue does not involve forcing women to undergo unwanted pregnancies just because you have a guilty conscience about it.

So in your mind, destroying the unborn child.... even right up unil the day of delivery is no ones business but the expectant mother.... and there is no moral component?

[웃 910]

So in your mind, destroying the unborn child.... even right up unil the day of delivery is no ones business but the expectant mother.... and there is no moral component?

You have so much love and compassion for an unborn baby but so little for a person that needs some government assistance.

If abortion was 100% banned the country would probably have went bankrupt 20 years ago!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So in your mind, destroying the unborn child.... even right up unil the day of delivery is no ones business but the expectant mother.... and there is no moral component?

Well it's not my body - nor is it yours. So why would it be anyone else's business?

In any case - what is the moral component?

1) Whether it's right for a woman terminate a pregnancy?

2) Whether the fetus has rights separate from the mother's wish to keep it?

3) Whether it's right to use the law to force women to go through with unwanted pregnancies?

4) Whether people should be punished for having sex?

[Danno 1,228]

You have so much love and compassion for an unborn baby but so little for a person that needs some government assistance.

If abortion was 100% banned the country would probably have went bankrupt 20 years ago!

I'm fine with "some" government assistance, depending on the situation.

As for going bankrupt..... isn't that the Problem with SSI.... not enough contributors?

[Zero Sum 305]

You have so much love and compassion for an unborn baby but so little for a person that needs some government assistance.

If abortion was 100% banned the country would probably have went bankrupt 20 years ago!

That seems to be a moral argument in itself.

[웃 910]

I'm fine with "some" government assistance, depending on the situation.

As for going bankrupt..... isn't that the Problem with SSI.... not enough contributors?

Danno, if you had to make a wild guess is an unwanted baby going to be a Ph.D. or a "Trig", "Felon", and/or "government leach"?

I just don't see how the evidence would stack up in favor of an unwanted MISTAKE becoming a Ph.D....Chances are he/she/"it" will become a "trig", "felon", and/or "gov't leach"! AMEN!!! BACHMANN 4 PRZDNT 2012

[Danno 1,228]

Danno, if you had to make a wild guess is an unwanted baby going to be a Ph.D. or a "Trig", "Felon", and/or "government leach"?

I just don't see how the evidence would stack up in favor of an unwanted MISTAKE becoming a Ph.D....Chances are he/she/"it" will become a "trig", "felon", and/or "gov't leach"! AMEN!!! BACHMANN 4 PRZDNT 2012

I'm not trying to overreach here but you have tones of genocidal rational here.

Are you really suggesting people are more worthy of life or have more value as people.....due to their potential level of education or mental capacity?

[Fandango 1,440]

Danno, if you had to make a wild guess is an unwanted baby going to be a Ph.D. or a "Trig", "Felon", and/or "government leach"?

I just don't see how the evidence would stack up in favor of an unwanted MISTAKE becoming a Ph.D....Chances are he/she/"it" will become a "trig", "felon", and/or "gov't leach"! AMEN!!! BACHMANN 4 PRZDNT 2012

I realize you're being pretty sarcastic here (at least I hope so), but at the end of the day, killing a child because it will 'probably' grow up to be a felon is disingenuous at best.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It's stupid. Call it what it is.