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[Gary and Alla 3,694]

You believe that a father and daughter embarking on a sexual relationship can be consensual in nature, i don't (neither does the law). Hence you are indeed advocating a position that legitimises the actions of pedophiles and sexual predators.

And you support homosexuality which is a crime in some states. So what? I assume that they are then also "sexual predators" if their actions are illegal?

You invent a definition and then apply anyone's argument that does not match yours to that definition. Doesn't work. Very weak. If there is a reason that sex between consenting adults should be illegal and addressed by the government...state it.

If you do it i have no doubt you've found a way to rationalise it to yourself.

Why don;t you just give us a list of all actions which should be legal

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

There's nothing wrong with hookers.

I find prostitution sick and immoral and still believe that it should be legal. It's not only a business - it's the oldest business in the world. It exists everywhere in the world. It's been here before our time and it will be here after we're all gone. If I was you, I'd advocate for all hookers and Johns (that would appear to include you) to be deported to some remote island. But I'm not you. I believe that your engaging in such a business transaction - however immoral and sick I think it is - is your business rather than mine. It's called tolerance. It's called not pushing my morals and values on the next man. It's called live and let live. You should try it some time.

Edited June 27, 2011 by Mr. Big Dog

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I find prostitution sick and immoral and still believe that it should be legal. It's not only a business - it's the oldest business in the world. It exists everywhere in the world. It's been here before our time and it will be here after we're all gone. If I was you, I'd advocate for all hookers and Johns (that would appear to include you) to be deported to some remote island. But I'm not you. I believe that your engaging in such a business transaction - however immoral and sick I think it is - is your business rather than mine. It's called tolerance. It's called not pushing my morals and values on the next man. It's called live and let live. You should try it some time.

I don't doubt the fact you find a man having sex with a woman...whether he paid for it or not...immoral compared to two men playing hide the salami with each other.

Go figure eh...

[웃 910]

I don't doubt the fact you find a man having sex with a woman...whether he paid for it or not...immoral compared to two men playing hide the salami with each other.

Go figure eh...

Are you as repulsed by two women having scissor fights?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

I don't doubt the fact you find a man having sex with a woman...whether he paid for it or not...immoral compared to two men playing hide the salami with each other.

Go figure eh...

Making a point of missing the same? Go figure...

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Are you as repulsed by two women having scissor fights?

Hot "bi sexual women" fall under a different category imo.

[웃 910]

But you think it is a coincidence that tens of millions of people are homosexuals? A coincidence in that each and every one of them is sexually confused?

I think the numbers are too large for it to be a coincidence. I have a gay relative and I've seen pictures of him as a child and you can see it in the poses at an early age. Call me crazy but I say it is biological/genetic.

Edited June 27, 2011 by Lord Infamous

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

But you think it is a coincidence that tens of millions of people are homosexuals? A coincidence in that each and every one of them is sexually confused?

I think the numbers are too large for it to be a coincidence. I have a gay relative and I've seen pictures of him as a child and you can see it in the poses at an early age. Call me crazy but I say it is biological/genetic.

It might be genetic...no idea. I just know I find it sick and creepy and I don't want to see it promoted in any sort of the kind.

[웃 910]

It might be genetic...no idea. I just know I find it sick and creepy and I don't want to see it promoted in any sort of the kind.

All a marriage license is is a piece of paper with a couple signatures on it. I wouldn't say legalizing it is promoting it. If they want to put the handcuffs on and make the breakup process that much more complicated than let them. It is revenue to the state. If a guy wants to marry a peanut and pay $50 for a certificate then give it to him. If a couple of the same sex live together, have ghey sex together, and want a certificate then let them buy it from the state. Who cares?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

And you support homosexuality which is a crime in some states. So what? I assume that they are then also "sexual predators" if their actions are illegal?

You invent a definition and then apply anyone's argument that does not match yours to that definition. Doesn't work. Very weak. If there is a reason that sex between consenting adults should be illegal and addressed by the government...state it.

Gary, the problem with what you wrote there is that you overlook the obvious. The fact of something being illegal has very much to do with its reasons for being illegal. Incest (particularly in the example you gave) makes it very difficult if not impossible to arrive at 'informed consent' without protecting or endorsing the actions of sexual predators. A father being his daughter's lover fundamentally undermines his position as her father, the two are simply incompatible. And it raises questions about the nature of the relationship earlier on, since people don't just wake up and feel sexually attracted to their own children it's a fair bet that the relationship was never normal to begin with (to put it mildly). Whether you want to admit it or not you can't get away from the fact that incest is linked to the familial abuse of children. Are there examples of incest between adults? Sure, adult incest between consenting siblings does occur but this too is illegal for the same reason - simply because it isn't feasible to make a legal endorsement of it which doesn't protect situations where consent hasn't been given or where the mental competence of one or both partners is in question.

The fact of the matter is that the example you gave was a shockingly poor one and is the reason why incest is illegal. The fact you went right to the worst possible scenario (and see nothing wrong with it) is curious, in all the wrong ways.

Why don;t you just give us a list of all actions which should be legal

Why don't you give us a list of all actions which should be legal? Since you endorse sexual predation (so long as it doesn't affect you and yours) it should be very interesting indeed!

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I find prostitution sick and immoral and still believe that it should be legal. It's not only a business - it's the oldest business in the world. It exists everywhere in the world. It's been here before our time and it will be here after we're all gone. If I was you, I'd advocate for all hookers and Johns (that would appear to include you) to be deported to some remote island. But I'm not you. I believe that your engaging in such a business transaction - however immoral and sick I think it is - is your business rather than mine. It's called tolerance. It's called not pushing my morals and values on the next man. It's called live and let live. You should try it some time.

Yeah that's my position on it too.

No doubt Gary, will try to find some weak parallel between thinking prostitution should be legal and thinking that incest should be legal. He's got a few more square pegs to bash fruitlessly into round holes.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't doubt the fact you find a man having sex with a woman...whether he paid for it or not...immoral compared to two men playing hide the salami with each other.

Go figure eh...

Why do you feel homosexuality is immoral? There has to be some actual rational reason other than it makes you feel funny.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Yeah that's my position on it too.

No doubt Gary, will try to find some weak parallel between thinking prostitution should be legal and thinking that incest should be legal. He's got a few more square pegs to bash fruitlessly into round holes.

Prostitution is legal in Netherlands, Germany, Nevada, etc...

[faust-yusov 103]

Why do you feel homosexuality is immoral? There has to be some actual rational reason other than it makes you feel funny.

This is far too appropriate not to post:

Edited June 27, 2011 by faust-yusov

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Prostitution is legal in Netherlands, Germany, Nevada, etc...

So what?