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shawna7   4

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Hi Everyone, My daughters boyfriend(USC) just realized his passport expired 4 months ago(DOH) and they are flying into Buffalo and driving across the peace bridge on Tuesday. They called the border and were told by border officer on the phone that all he needs is his birth certificate and drivers license, he also told them it would be no problem getting back into the USA with those documents. Now on the site it says thats all he needs to cross into canada but of course the US site says he needs a passport. What do you guys think? he can't get a new passport fast enough unless he spends 500$ so his choice is not bother going at all(and losing his non-refundable plane ticket or chancing it..

thx in advance..and I know hes a dope for not checking his passport sooner! haha

AOS

02/25/08 sent AOS packet

02/26/08 packet received chicago lockbox

03/03/08 NOA(I-485,I765,I131)for daughter and myself

03/09/08 received biometrics appointment letter

03/25/08 RFE recieved for NOA for I129F(USCIS lost it! DOH!)

03/25/08 RFE sent

03/26/08 biometrics appointment(YAY!)

03/26/08 EAD touched(for daughter and myself)

03/28/08 EAD touch again!

04/03/08 RFE received case processing resumes

04/29/08 request AP expedited

05/01/08 AP sent out

05/02/08 case transfered to CSC

05/02/08 EAD card production ordered

05/05/08 EAD card production ordered again

05/10/08 EAD card received

05/16/08 AOS touched

05/18/08 AOS touched again!

06/11/08 AOS card production ordered!

06/16/08 green card received in mail!!

no more USCIS for almost 2 years!!

ROC

04/07/10 sent I-751 to VSC

04/09/10 NOA recieved

04/13/10 cheque cashed

05/17/10 early biometrics

06/29/10 card production ordered

07/10/10 card received

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RandyN   10

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If he has an enhanced drivers license, that, and his birth certificate should be fine.

02/22/2011 - I-129F Mailed to Texas Lockbox
03/02/2011 - Electronic Notice of Acceptance Received
03/02/2011 - Check cashed
03/16/2011 - Received NOA 1
06/02/2011 - RFE
06/12/2011 - RFE returned
06/20/2011 - Received NOA 2
07/08/2011 - NVC Sent to Embassy
08/08/2011 - Packet 3
08/15/2011 - Packet 4
10/21/2011 - Interview - APPROVED
11/16/2011 - POE - Port Huron
12/03/2011 - Marriage!

AOS
12/12/2011 - AOS Packet Mailed
12/14/2011 - AOS Packet Delivered to Chicago Lockbox per USPS
12/19/2011 - Emails received from USCIS for receipt of applications
12/19/2011 - NOA's Receipt date
12/23/2011 - Received biometrics appointment letter
01/10/2012 - Biometrics Appointment
01/11/2012 - Case transferred to California Service Center
02/08/2012 - EAD and AP approval text/email
02/13/2012 - Second email telling us the EAD card is in production (why two?)
02/14/2012 - Email notice telling us that the EAD has been mailed
02/16/2012 - Email notice that USPS picked up the EAD on 2/14/2012
02/16/2012 - EAD and AP Card received
07/19/2012 - Contacted Congressman
07/26/2012 - RFE Text and Email received
10/23/2012 - AOS Approval text
10/27/2012 - Greencard received!

Lifting Conditions

07/22/2014 - Filing Date

07/24/2014 - NOA

08/18/2014 - Biometrics

10/22/2014 - USCIS web site says Approved!

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Sc0tt28   26

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Hi Everyone, My daughters boyfriend(USC) just realized his passport expired 4 months ago(DOH) and they are flying into Buffalo and driving across the peace bridge on Tuesday. They called the border and were told by border officer on the phone that all he needs is his birth certificate and drivers license, he also told them it would be no problem getting back into the USA with those documents. Now on the site it says thats all he needs to cross into canada but of course the US site says he needs a passport. What do you guys think? he can't get a new passport fast enough unless he spends 500$ so his choice is not bother going at all(and losing his non-refundable plane ticket or chancing it..

thx in advance..and I know hes a dope for not checking his passport sooner! haha

For one thing, if he has an Enhanced Driver's License, then he doesn't need to bring the birth certificate. The Enhanced Driver's License is a WHTI (Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative) Compliant document.

Secondly, a US citizen will not be denied entry into the US....ever. That being said, of course he needs to prove that he is a USC. An expired US passport still proves US citizenship. The State Department will accept your expired passport as evidence of your citizenship in order to get your passport renewed right? So will Customs and Border Protection. At the end of the day, the birth certificate works too. Since your birth certificate doesn't have a picture on it, that is why you need to show a DL along with it. That's also why the passport works (even though its expired) it shows where you were born (if he was born in the US), name, and picture.

That is for getting back into the US. As for getting into Canada, I have noticed that the Canadians don't seem to be quite as worried about it. I have seen people get into Canada with practically nothing but the shirt on their back and a smile...and yes, this is within the past year.

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Leafgal Experienced

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Shawna sounds like the others above me have answered so I just wanted to say hello, hope all is well with you. And do keep us informed as to what happens, but like was mentioned he should be fine.

K-1 journey, AOS/EAD and ROC in my timeline

2011 March 31 - Sent off Naturalization pkg overnight to Texas

2011 April 1 - Arrived in Texas at 10:21 am

2011 April 1 - NOA (rec'd via snail mail April 8)

2011 April 7 - Cheque cashed

2011 May 5 - Biometrics (letter rec'd via snail mail April 15)

2011 May 9 - Placed in line for interview scheduling

2011 June 13 - Rec'd yellow letter (no change in status online)

2011 June 23 - Rec'd text that my case has been scheduled for interview

2011 August 1 - Interview (rec'd via snail mail June 27) PASSED

2011 August 3 - Rec'd email that my case has been scheduled for Oath

2011 September 1 - Oath ceremony (rec'd snail mail Aug 5)

2011 September 1 - All done, yeah.

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Secondly, a US citizen will not be denied entry into the US....ever. That being said, of course he needs to prove that he is a USC. An expired US passport still proves US citizenship. The State Department will accept your expired passport as evidence of your citizenship in order to get your passport renewed right? So will Customs and Border Protection. At the end of the day, the birth certificate works too. Since your birth certificate doesn't have a picture on it, that is why you need to show a DL along with it. That's also why the passport works (even though its expired) it shows where you were born (if he was born in the US), name, and picture.

To put it mildly, I don't think that's true. For that reason we do have the Department of State's requirement of a valid passport for border crossings. I would imagine that if a US citizen shows up at the border with just his birth certificate or an expired passport, it's very possible that CBP would refer him to the next US consulate to get a temporary passport. Otherwise, why would I even bother renewing my US passport. I leave with my German one and then show my expired US passport at the P.O.E. whenever I come back.

Should work like a charm, right?

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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shawna7   4

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so they have now spoken to the officers at the peace bridge on the US side..they have told them its fine bring expired passport birth certificate and drivers license to be safe but that he's an american citizen...he won't be turned back. thanks for your help...my only concern is they are flying from charleston to buffalo and crossing there so if there was a problem..they are a long way from home.

hey Leafgal! how are things going?

AOS

02/25/08 sent AOS packet

02/26/08 packet received chicago lockbox

03/03/08 NOA(I-485,I765,I131)for daughter and myself

03/09/08 received biometrics appointment letter

03/25/08 RFE recieved for NOA for I129F(USCIS lost it! DOH!)

03/25/08 RFE sent

03/26/08 biometrics appointment(YAY!)

03/26/08 EAD touched(for daughter and myself)

03/28/08 EAD touch again!

04/03/08 RFE received case processing resumes

04/29/08 request AP expedited

05/01/08 AP sent out

05/02/08 case transfered to CSC

05/02/08 EAD card production ordered

05/05/08 EAD card production ordered again

05/10/08 EAD card received

05/16/08 AOS touched

05/18/08 AOS touched again!

06/11/08 AOS card production ordered!

06/16/08 green card received in mail!!

no more USCIS for almost 2 years!!

ROC

04/07/10 sent I-751 to VSC

04/09/10 NOA recieved

04/13/10 cheque cashed

05/17/10 early biometrics

06/29/10 card production ordered

07/10/10 card received

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