"Gaza Island"

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

17-year-olds are children???

Wasn't the limit in the US once 16? (I know its 17 currently with a parent's signature)

Edited July 26, 2011 by Sousuke

[Sofiyya 1,687]

If they are truly that evil then I would say that they are a hell of lot better at hiding it and that the Palestinians should be taking notes so that the rest of the world can begin thinking they are not just heartless thugs.

Revelations 11-18:

11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.

12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.

13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people.

14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.

15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,

17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[a] That number is 666.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Revelations 11-18:

11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.

12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.

13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people.

14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived.

15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,

17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[a] That number is 666.

Christians are a small minority in Israel.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

What are you talking about? I was referring to the video from east Jerusalem. The video that you were responding to. Seriously go back and read.

I jumped in because you glossed over this sick video and tried to make it about Israel. Its annoying that you act like the only problem here is Israel. This sort of approach will never fix the problem.

Do you need a flow chart to keep track of your own participation in this thread ? I quote you each time I respond to you, so it's easy to see what I'm talking about. Maybe you are the one who need to go back and read:

Post #547 I first comment on the “Dancing Palestinians” video, mention that there are questions about it, and also mention the report about the “Dancing Israelis”

Post #549 You enter the discussion, directly quoting my Post #547, claiming that other news organizations (which you don’t name) “reported the same thing,” that I am “making excuses for everything Palestine” and that there are a “huge amount of extremists in Palestine.”

Post #552 I quote you and answer each point, and note that you don’t want to address the “Dancing Israelis” report (which was also reported by other news organizations) and ask you the source of your claim about the “huge amount of extremists.”

Post #553 You quote me, and post a bunch of assumptions and conjectures about what the “Dancing Israelis” must be, without even looking it up or understanding what it’s about.

Post #556 I answer each of your misconceptions, and even give you a link so you can inform yourself on the “Dancing Israelis” story before you attempt to discuss it further.

Post #561 - You quote me again, and comment on the report about the Israelis.

Post #564 I quote your remarks, and ask you again to read the report before you post, and explain why I absolutely do not equate the two incidents, as one is far more disturbing than the other. I also ask you again for your source of info on your claims about Palestinian extremism.

Post #565 You quote my post, and answer that you don’t have time to actually read the report (despite posting opinions about it.) Then you claim that your source of information is your “20 + years of observation research and an open mind.” And then you post more disinfo about Hamas.

Post #566 - I quote each of your remarks, commenting that you were quite willing to try to support the “Dancing Palestinians” video, but don’t want to discuss the “Israelis Dancing” report, because it is much more disturbing. And I point out that your claim about Hamas was totally incorrect.

That brings us up to your present post, where you now try to run away from the discussion of the "Dancing Israelis" report by pretending you didn’t know you were already discussing the “Dancing Israelis“ report, even though you quoted me each time you responded !

You’re like a squid - you think if you release enough ink you can escape.

Was that your exact words...no but basically yes that is what you said. Here is what you said -

It seems you cannot distinguish the difference between an assessment of the actual reasons that Palestinians voted for Hamas, and my own personal opinion of whether that decision was “best” or not. In fact, I have never expressed any opinion on that subject.

So like I said this is very telling.

Telling what ?

My bad they target children!!! link They are worthless pieces of shite and never should of been elected. How these people could vote Hamas into office is a very serious concern. I have very little faith in the people of Palestine.

I’m guessing you feel a little uncomfortable because you couldn’t come up with any evidence to back up your incendiary but unsubstantiated claim about Hamas “strapping bombs on brainwashed children.” I will accept your concession of the point.

Now, as for your attempt to try to distract from your error and assuage your embarrassment with this new claim:

According to the source quoted in your own link, the perpetrators of this incident were “a self-proclaimed ‘Hamas’ cell from Hebron, disowned and denounced by the official leadership.

The rest of your post is just standard demonization of Palestinian people.

Next.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Do you need a flow chart to keep track of your own participation in this thread ? I quote you each time I respond to you, so it's easy to see what I'm talking about. Maybe you are the one who need to go back and read:

Post #547 I first comment on the “Dancing Palestinians” video, mention that there are questions about it, and also mention the report about the “Dancing Israelis”

Post #549 You enter the discussion, directly quoting my Post #547, claiming that other news organizations (which you don’t name) “reported the same thing,” that I am “making excuses for everything Palestine” and that there are a “huge amount of extremists in Palestine.”

Post #552 I quote you and answer each point, and note that you don’t want to address the “Dancing Israelis” report (which was also reported by other news organizations) and ask you the source of your claim about the “huge amount of extremists.”

Post #553 You quote me, and post a bunch of assumptions and conjectures about what the “Dancing Israelis” must be, without even looking it up or understanding what it’s about.

Post #556 I answer each of your misconceptions, and even give you a link so you can inform yourself on the “Dancing Israelis” story before you attempt to discuss it further.

Post #561 - You quote me again, and comment on the report about the Israelis.

Post #564 I quote your remarks, and ask you again to read the report before you post, and explain why I absolutely do not equate the two incidents, as one is far more disturbing than the other. I also ask you again for your source of info on your claims about Palestinian extremism.

Post #565 You quote my post, and answer that you don’t have time to actually read the report (despite posting opinions about it.) Then you claim that your source of information is your “20 + years of observation research and an open mind.” And then you post more disinfo about Hamas.

Post #566 - I quote each of your remarks, commenting that you were quite willing to try to support the “Dancing Palestinians” video, but don’t want to discuss the “Israelis Dancing” report, because it is much more disturbing. And I point out that your claim about Hamas was totally incorrect.

That brings us up to your present post, where you now try to run away from the discussion of the "Dancing Israelis" report by pretending you didn’t know you were already discussing the “Dancing Israelis“ report, even though you quoted me each time you responded !

You’re like a squid - you think if you release enough ink you can escape.

It seems you cannot distinguish the difference between an assessment of the actual reasons that Palestinians voted for Hamas, and my own personal opinion of whether that decision was “best” or not. In fact, I have never expressed any opinion on that subject.

Telling what ?

I’m guessing you feel a little uncomfortable because you couldn’t come up with any evidence to back up your incendiary but unsubstantiated claim about Hamas “strapping bombs on brainwashed children.” I will accept your concession of the point.

Now, as for your attempt to try to distract from your error and assuage your embarrassment with this new claim:

According to the source quoted in your own link, the perpetrators of this incident were “a self-proclaimed ‘Hamas’ cell from Hebron, disowned and denounced by the official leadership.

The rest of your post is just standard demonization of Palestinian people.

Next.

OK now besides Sofiya who keeps giving her a +1,lol.

I appreciate you taking the time to go into such detail on every post and I wish I had the time to do the same but I dont. This was never about it being less disqusting because Israel did it, that seems to be what your trying to push here. I took issue with you comparing the two, a sort of "look there doing it too" approach. Childish IMO. Also I became more alarmed with the Palestinians because of the numbers not because it was Palestinians. I find the actions equally disgusting.

Also please quit making excuses for Hamas. They are a disgusting group of individuals that need to be taken out and shot. There is no excuse for voting them into power. Shame on the Palestinian people who voted for Hamas.

[Golden Gate 530]

And shame on Israel for voting in Likud. No excuse there either.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

And shame on Israel for voting in Likud. No excuse there either.

So much for democracies. Give me a benign monarchy anytime.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

So much for democracies. Give me a benign monarchy anytime.

Theocracies are the best. Then the government can do fun things to its people and foreigners and then site a holy book.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Theocracies are the best. Then the government can do fun things to its people and foreigners and then site a holy book.

Like Israel does.

Christians are a small minority in Israel.

Gee, I wonder why . . .

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Like Israel does.

Gee, I wonder why . . .

Strictly speaking, Israel is not a Theocracy.

[mawilson 2,133]

Like Israel does.

Like Israel does what? Cite a holy book?

Gee, I wonder why . . .

I have many Christian friends in Israel. They are free to practice their religion and are not oppressed in any way.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Strictly speaking, Israel is not a Theocracy.

Then, don't speak so strictly. It is a Jewish state with a Jewish hierarchy and favoritism toward Jews and Jewish laws.

Like Israel does what? Cite a holy book?

The entire premise justifying Israel's existence where it is is based on a holy book.

Edited July 28, 2011 by Sofiyya

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Then, don't speak so strictly. It is a Jewish state with a Jewish hierarchy and favoritism toward Jews and Jewish laws.

Its still not a theocracy.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Strictly speaking, Israel is not a Theocracy.

Your words about a theocracy: "... the government can do fun things to its people and foreigners and then site a holy book."

Israel does that, so you need to amend your criteria. I was simply responding to it.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Its still not a theocracy.

Well, nobody gets into power without the consent of the Sephardim.