"Gaza Island"

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Why don't you speak for yourself then?

Can you answer the question?

Are we debating the issue based on the concept that there are any religious groups that are entitled to a country? If so, please list them and explain why they are special.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Are we debating the issue based on the concept that there are any religious groups that are entitled to a country? If so, please list them and explain why they are special.

This opens a whole other debate actually. The Religious Group vs Ethnic Group topic.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Who wants to give the Kurds and the Armenians their own homeland?

Edited June 24, 2011 by Some Old Guy

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Who wants to give the Kurds and the Armenians their own homeland?

Turkey? (joke)

but seriously Kurds should have one too.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Sousuke

[Sofiyya 1,687]

This opens a whole other debate actually. The Religious Group vs Ethnic Group topic.

True. Then, I would ask for a list of ethnic groups entitled to a country.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Turkey?

Don't think so.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Gays are persecuted worldwide. Should they, too, have a country where they can assert self-determination?

[mawilson 2,133]

Why does any religious group "deserve" a country of their own?

Why does any group?

Besides, being Jewish is more than just about practicing Judaism. It's

a shared identity, collective history, a culture, a set of values

and community which can connect Jews in Ethiopia or Poland with

Jews in Israel or America. It's a shared experience regardless

of nationality.

But then you already knew that.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Gays are persecuted worldwide. Should they, too, have a country where they can assert self-determination?

They pretty much do, and the capital is San Francisco. They just didn't tell anybody yet.

[mawilson 2,133]

Who wants to give the Kurds and the Armenians their own homeland?

Armenians have their homeland. It's called Armenia.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

Why does any group?

Besides, being Jewish is more than just about practicing Judaism. It's

a shared identity, collective history, a culture, a set of values

and community which can connect Jews in Ethiopia or Poland with

Jews in Israel or America. It's a shared experience regardless

of nationality.

But then you already knew that.

That is true of groups who do not have an advocacy for their "right" to a country. A country of people who lived there before the European invasion would also been based on a collective history, culture and shared experience. Besides, European Jews have had a hard time believing they "shared an experience" with Ethiopian Jews.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Sofiyya

[Sofiyya 1,687]

They pretty much do, and the capital is San Francisco. They just didn't tell anybody yet.

The Zionists did the same thing to get Israel. Next thing ya know, gays will take over all of central Cal and declare a sovereign state with UN backing, leaving northern and southern Cal fighting a terrorist war for reunification.

Edited June 24, 2011 by Sofiyya

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

If the area was one country, say we name it Levant, which minority group doesn't get represented?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Armenians have their homeland. It's called Armenia.

Thanks. I have a hard time keeping track of all the hurl that used to be the Soviet Union. Good for them.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

If the area was one country, say we name it Levant, which minority group doesn't get represented?

We can truck in the ones who aren't there already under the concept of a right of return for people that haven't lived there for a minimum of 1000 years.