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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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I align with neither. Number 1 issue is individual liberty and individual responsibility. With either party they only believe in individual freedom for certain things, they both want big government, just to control different parts of my life. Not interested in either.

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No, I don't. But we can see the old HAL thing come back.

IMHO: people thinking you're HAL is a complement. HAL is an extremely intelligent, well educated, and articulate man. i hardly ever agreed with him on political issues. but, on a personal level he is a first class individual. he's one of the genuine 'good guys' i've met during my time here.

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Well, the federal budget would be looking a hell of a lot better if we had just left W's tax cuts expire last year. All of them. Maybe he was right to have them sunset in Dec 2010. Sad thing is, we not only pushed them out two more years but actually added to the cuts making the deficit ever larger.

Why do you desire to feed the gov? :blink:

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Oh, so you leave out the be White like me part for them. It's just the Muslims who need to stop being Muslims to please you.

What? Is this all from me saying to take your Muslim blinders off. All I mean is that you get so defensive and cant see straight when it comes to anything Islam.

What have you said that expresses your open-mindedness about Islam? You tell me to stop thinking like a Muslim. You tell me you know more about Islam than I do, and that what you know is that Islam is anti-western. You tell me that a "We" that doesn't include me, allows me to be here and that trying not offend "you people" is not warranted.

So, you don't mind being offensive, and, whether you realize it or not, you are. And, I don't really care that you're offensive. What bothers me is that you actively believe I need to think as you do to be acceptable to America. That's serious fcuked up thinking.

I didn't say anti-western. A lot of Islam does take issues with a lot of western ideas. I never said believe as I do. You get so emotional on this issue that I dont think you even get what I'm trying to point out.

I don't even know what that means. Islam just is. It doesn't DO anything. It's no more extreme than Judaism or Christianity. Maybe you mean that there are extremist Muslims. That we can agree on, but Islam doesn't hate the west, Islam didn't attack anyone. Islam just is, but when you blame the faith for the acts of some Muslims, you tar us all for following it, and that is offensive. And, when you say I need to stop thinking like a Muslim, you infer that denying my faith is the only way I can become normal and acceptable and American enough for you. Well, not gonna happen.

"Maybe you mean that there are extremist Muslims." Like I said early on, I dont buy into your notion that you can pick and choose what parts of Islam you want to consider Islam.

All we have here is words, Simpson. Maybe you need to read yours out loud before you hit the "Add Reply" button, coz, if you want to talk with me, you need to stop telling me what I should think and how I feel to deal with you. It will be easier for me not to deal with you of I have to change who I am and become who you want me to be to do it.

Never told you what to think, just want you to stop being so close minded when it comes to anything Islam.

Oh, so you leave out the be White like me part for them. It's just the Muslims who need to stop being Muslims to please you.

What? Is this all from me saying to take your Muslim blinders off. All I mean is that you get so defensive and cant see straight when it comes to anything Islam.

What have you said that expresses your open-mindedness about Islam? You tell me to stop thinking like a Muslim. You tell me you know more about Islam than I do, and that what you know is that Islam is anti-western. You tell me that a "We" that doesn't include me, allows me to be here and that trying not offend "you people" is not warranted.

So, you don't mind being offensive, and, whether you realize it or not, you are. And, I don't really care that you're offensive. What bothers me is that you actively believe I need to think as you do to be acceptable to America. That's serious fcuked up thinking.

I didn't say anti-western. A lot of Islam does take issues with a lot of western ideas. I never said believe as I do. You get so emotional on this issue that I dont think you even get what I'm trying to point out.

I don't even know what that means. Islam just is. It doesn't DO anything. It's no more extreme than Judaism or Christianity. Maybe you mean that there are extremist Muslims. That we can agree on, but Islam doesn't hate the west, Islam didn't attack anyone. Islam just is, but when you blame the faith for the acts of some Muslims, you tar us all for following it, and that is offensive. And, when you say I need to stop thinking like a Muslim, you infer that denying my faith is the only way I can become normal and acceptable and American enough for you. Well, not gonna happen.

"Maybe you mean that there are extremist Muslims." Like I said early on, I dont buy into your notion that you can pick and choose what parts of Islam you want to consider Islam.

All we have here is words, Simpson. Maybe you need to read yours out loud before you hit the "Add Reply" button, coz, if you want to talk with me, you need to stop telling me what I should think and how I feel to deal with you. It will be easier for me not to deal with you of I have to change who I am and become who you want me to be to do it.

Never told you what to think, just want you to stop being so close minded when it comes to anything Islam.

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IMHO: people thinking you're HAL is a complement. HAL is an extremely intelligent, well educated, and articulate man. i hardly ever agreed with him on political issues. but, on a personal level he is a first class individual. he's one of the genuine 'good guys' i've met during my time here.

The difference I see between the two is that you could have a productive conversation with hal. ZS is not stupid and I totally believe that its hal. After all he doesn't want to appear to be hal so he changes his M.O. So bam just like that we have this little annoying )*&% known as ZS.

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The difference I see between the two is that you could have a productive conversation with hal. ZS is not stupid and I totally believe that its hal. After all he doesn't want to appear to be hal so he changes his M.O. So bam just like that we have this little annoying )*&% known as ZS.

HAL9000 is not amused.

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IMHO: people thinking you're HAL is a complement. HAL is an extremely intelligent, well educated, and articulate man. i hardly ever agreed with him on political issues. but, on a personal level he is a first class individual. he's one of the genuine 'good guys' i've met during my time here.

HAL9000 is blushing.

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Thailand
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Well, if I'm the liberal you refer to, then I would agree with you. A person who comes to you and takes advantage of you and expects services to be provided for free, as you've described it, is a leech. I don't condone that. I wonder why you invested as much time as you did before confirming with this client that you expect to be paid for your services, and not offer them pro bono? Surely that's something you do routinely in your line of work?

In any event, your example points out that our society has leeches. I agree. We have low income poor leeches. And we have high income rich ones. And I don't like either kind. And none of that to me has much to do about the benefits of being a liberal or a conservative.

Why would you go to a person who is going to render a service and not expect that payment will be due. If I walk into a place of business my first thought isn't they are going to give me anything pro bono. My thought is to make sure I have payment options ready for them. Just our different way of thinking of which really dumbfounds me. Next time I go get my hair cut I will make sure to ask if she is doing it pro bono as she doesn't have a prices listed either.

I will agree with you that there are rich leeches and poor ones, and my generalization whether right or wrong, about liberals is based only on my experience of dealing with the public over 15 years and conversations I have had with my clients and their experiences.

Cheers,

Alvin

“A man reserves his true and deepest love not for the species of woman in whose company he finds himself electrified and enkindled, but for that one in whose company he may feel tenderly drowsy.”

~George Jean Nathan~

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Why do you desire to feed the gov? :blink:

Because following our species' departure from the cave, there is a need for government. As countries develop and societies and economies evolve, the role for government typically doesn't decrease. Recognizing that there is a valid role for government, one also has to recognize that the functions such government carries out need to be funded.

If you don't like government and prefer a country without one, I suggest you book a trip to Mogadishu and take a look at what a country without a functioning government looks like. They don't feed the beast, they starved it. And what a paradise that made for them.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Spain
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He's getting married. His girl is pretty hot. Almost as hot as Giselle. But I'll give you that your QB's hottie is hotter than our QB's hottie. Satisfied?

What are you trying to tell us? That you know HAL? That you are HAL?

HAL was from Chicago too.... hmmm....

Yeah sorry for ignoring your Bears post with those pics. I never liked the idea of Cutler in Chicago, although he is apparently from NW Indiana. Coach Smith has to go, that's for sure. Bad decision after bad decision.

As for the HAL thing, you'll see what they do with the constant insinuation that I am his/her sock-puppet. I think the site administration looked at my account (visitors) and haven't really asked me if I was- and I'm still here so I guess its a vote of confidence in my favor and one less for the paranoid posters here that probably own like 10 separate accounts themselves. Go figure. :lol:

Eric is a legend and a self made man.

He also hasn't mentioned his ####### yet, but, if I play it right, I could get him to do it on that ####### thread.

Well I guess that would mean you have something in common with that person.

IMHO: people thinking you're HAL is a complement. HAL is an extremely intelligent, well educated, and articulate man. i hardly ever agreed with him on political issues. but, on a personal level he is a first class individual. he's one of the genuine 'good guys' i've met during my time here.

Sounds cool. I mentioned I wrote him a while ago but no answer. It would be awesome having some fellow city dweller to laugh at all the shenanigans we come across here from time to time.

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Spain
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The difference I see between the two is that you could have a productive conversation with hal. ZS is not stupid and I totally believe that its hal. After all he doesn't want to appear to be hal so he changes his M.O. So bam just like that we have this little annoying )*&% known as ZS.

You are always entitled to continue to display your own ignorance of the English language and its proper use as a means of communicating thoughts and ideas. The thought though that it really gets under your skin to have your consistent flaws is quite funny- purely for entertainment value although at times when you have a heart to heart you can actually succeed in effectively communicating your point without need for much help from your reader.

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Why would you go to a person who is going to render a service and not expect that payment will be due. If I walk into a place of business my first thought isn't they are going to give me anything pro bono. My thought is to make sure I have payment options ready for them. Just our different way of thinking of which really dumbfounds me. Next time I go get my hair cut I will make sure to ask if she is doing it pro bono as she doesn't have a prices listed either.

I will agree with you that there are rich leeches and poor ones, and my generalization whether right or wrong, about liberals is based only on my experience of dealing with the public over 15 years and conversations I have had with my clients and their experiences.

Cheers,

Alvin

Well I honestly don't seek services without having full knowledge of the price and that I have the funds to cover such expenses. Qualifying those kinds of behaviors as politically charged with liberals or conservatives is quite silly- unless you have information about the politics of each and every one of these leech clients you've worked with personally. Which would still only serve to qualify your own preconception of this political leaning. But I appreciate your input as I did before. I can't generalize what conservatives do and think based on what I read for the most part here since that would be falling into a logic trap.

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You are always entitled to continue to display your own ignorance of the English language and its proper use as a means of communicating thoughts and ideas. The thought though that it really gets under your skin to have your consistent flaws is quite funny- purely for entertainment value although at times when you have a heart to heart you can actually succeed in effectively communicating your point without need for much help from your reader.

Like I said, a annoying little...

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Qualifying those kinds of behaviors as politically charged with liberals or conservatives is quite silly- unless you have information about the politics of each and every one of these leech clients you've worked with personally. Which would still only serve to qualify your own preconception of this political leaning. But I appreciate your input as I did before.

I agree with you on that. I do not know the overall facts, but just by my interview with this young lady I will stand by my perception that she is far from conservative. Like I said this is my own personal opinion based on my experiences...of some cases I do know pretty well the circumstances. I think this is another case as with a lot in politics we can agree to disagree....good.gif

“A man reserves his true and deepest love not for the species of woman in whose company he finds himself electrified and enkindled, but for that one in whose company he may feel tenderly drowsy.”

~George Jean Nathan~

 

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