Cosponsor?

[Mocha 0]

Hi guys,

I'm just looking for some advice regarding the financial side of things. When I get my NOA2, I understand I need to show that I'm able to support my fiance. I'm able to do so and my salary itself is high enough, but the problem is that I am a recent college graduate and just began work in July. Therefore... I have very few payment stubs and my bank account isn't exactly huge yet. Would it be safer for me to have my father cosponsor my fiance, or will they just judge based on the fact that my monthly income is high enough?

Thanks for the input,

Emily

[William33 110]

Your path of progression makes logical sense; College, first job making good money and reasonable assurance of continued progress.

Trouble is, you currently have less than 3 months of income.

Without having looked at your timeline, I would hope you could produce at least 6 months worth of pay evidence, by interview time.

With that, I would personally try to carry the I-134 alone.

If you fall short of 6 months, I would personally go for the co-sponsor, to avoid a headache at the Embassy/Consulate.

Hi guys,

I'm just looking for some advice regarding the financial side of things. When I get my NOA2, I understand I need to show that I'm able to support my fiance. I'm able to do so and my salary itself is high enough, but the problem is that I am a recent college graduate and just began work in July. Therefore... I have very few payment stubs and my bank account isn't exactly huge yet. Would it be safer for me to have my father cosponsor my fiance, or will they just judge based on the fact that my monthly income is high enough?

Thanks for the input,

Emily

[YuAndDan 153]

Provide them with 1-3 past years tax returns, what pays stubs that you have, doing the math on them will show your income level. And most important, a letter from your employer clearly stating your salary, and that you are full time, length of contract ect.

[William33 110]

Dude, he just stated that he just graduated college and started working in July. Your response does not address his question.

Provide them with 1-3 past years tax returns, what pays stubs that you have, doing the math on them will show your income level. And most important, a letter from your employer clearly stating your salary, and that you are full time, length of contract ect.

[AndyMisiu 0]

Remember you will need a co-sponsor for the AOS, that requires 3 years tax returns. I would go for a co-sponsor now to get used to it.

Edited September 11, 2006 by AndyMisiu

[William33 110]

By the time of AOS, She will have plenty of financial evidence to carry the load alone.

The question is about the Embassy/Consulate I-134 requirement.

To the OP, I see that you are female, sorry about the above (calling you a He).

Remember you will need a co-sponsor for the AOS, that requires 3 years tax returns. I would go for a co-sponsor now to get used to it.

[YuAndDan 153]

Dude, he just stated that he just graduated college and started working in July. Your response does not address his question.

Provide them with 1-3 past years tax returns, what pays stubs that you have, doing the math on them will show your income level. And most important, a letter from your employer clearly stating your salary, and that you are full time, length of contract ect.

True, but the letter from employer is for situations like this, the letter establishes his income level.

Note read the instructions included with form I-134.

II. Supporting Evidence.

As the sponsor, you must show you have sufficient income and/or financial resources to assure that the alien you are sponsoring will not become a public charge while in the United States.

Evidence should consist of copies of any or all of the following documentation listed below that are applocabable to your situation.

Failure to provide evidence of sufficient income and/or financial resources may result in the denial of the alien's application for a visa or his removal from the United States.

The Sponsor must submit in duplicate evidence of income and resources, as appropriate:

A. Statement from officer of the bank or other fincial institution where you have deposits, giving the following details regarding your account:

1. Date account opened;

2. Total amount deposited for the past year;

3 Present balance.

B. Statement of your employer on business stationary, showing:

1. Date and nature of employment;

2. Salary paid;

3. Whether the position is temporary or permanent.

C. If self-employed:

1. Copy of last income tax return filed; or

2. Report of commercial rating concern.

D. List containing serial numbers and denomination of bonds and name of record owner(s).

Now no where dose the instructions indicate past six months pay stubs, they can be used to establish income pattern, but the letter from employer as stated in instructions II part B is what they will uses to determine income level. Also not required by the instructions is past 1-3 years tax returns, but it is advisable to include them also.

Don't get I-864 requirements confused with I-134 requirements.

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/files/I-134.pdf

[William33 110]

I am fully cognizant of these facts. However, that was not the question from the OP. The OP wanted to understand the requirements of income compared to duration of employment.

Conventional wisdom does indeed suggest to include the pay stubs, as part of the income evidence at all stages.

I most assuredly included them and would recommend anyone else do likewise.

Edited September 11, 2006 by William33

[Mew 0]

The supporting documents mentioned in the I-134 instructions are examples of documents that might be brought by the petitioner to establish their ability to support the applicant. So... there's no need to stick to those documents. One certainly can show pay stubs as evidence of income or any other documents that are not mentioned there and that would show the ability to support the applicant.

William, correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned 6 months of pay stubs so the petitioner can demonstrate stability at their job?

Also, it's advisable to check with the consulate/embassy whether they look for 100% or 125% above the poverty guidelines. Most consulates/embassies ask for 100%, but it's good to check, as it may vary.

The supporting documents mentioned in the I-134 instructions are examples of documents that might be brought by the petitioner to establish their ability to support the applicant. So... there's no need to stick to those documents. One certainly can show pay stubs as evidence of income or any other documents that are not mentioned there and that would show the ability to support the applicant.

William, correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned 6 months of pay stubs so the petitioner can demonstrate stability at their job?

Also, it's advisable to check with the consulate/embassy whether they look for 100% or 125% above the poverty guidelines. Most consulates/embassies ask for 100%, but it's good to check, as it may vary.

And... to complete the question to William... not only stability, but income?

[trey 0]

Hi guys,

I'm just looking for some advice regarding the financial side of things. When I get my NOA2, I understand I need to show that I'm able to support my fiance. I'm able to do so and my salary itself is high enough, but the problem is that I am a recent college graduate and just began work in July. Therefore... I have very few payment stubs and my bank account isn't exactly huge yet. Would it be safer for me to have my father cosponsor my fiance, or will they just judge based on the fact that my monthly income is high enough?

Thanks for the input,

Emily

I was in the same boat. Graduated college and only been working 4 months when I sent in the I-129F petition. No employment the previous 2 years. Included a letter from my employer stating salary, full-time status, and position. Included what pay stubs I had. Included my mother and all pertinent info as co-sponsor. The consulate did not even look at the co-sponsor information. Visa was granted.

[William33 110]

Mew,

That was the general idea, that pay stubs would support the other financial evidence, with respect to income level and stability. The idea being to give a complete picture of your financial status.

And as Trey pointed out, that worked in his case.

The supporting documents mentioned in the I-134 instructions are examples of documents that might be brought by the petitioner to establish their ability to support the applicant. So... there's no need to stick to those documents. One certainly can show pay stubs as evidence of income or any other documents that are not mentioned there and that would show the ability to support the applicant.

William, correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned 6 months of pay stubs so the petitioner can demonstrate stability at their job?

Also, it's advisable to check with the consulate/embassy whether they look for 100% or 125% above the poverty guidelines. Most consulates/embassies ask for 100%, but it's good to check, as it may vary.

The supporting documents mentioned in the I-134 instructions are examples of documents that might be brought by the petitioner to establish their ability to support the applicant. So... there's no need to stick to those documents. One certainly can show pay stubs as evidence of income or any other documents that are not mentioned there and that would show the ability to support the applicant.

William, correct me if I'm wrong, but you mentioned 6 months of pay stubs so the petitioner can demonstrate stability at their job?

Also, it's advisable to check with the consulate/embassy whether they look for 100% or 125% above the poverty guidelines. Most consulates/embassies ask for 100%, but it's good to check, as it may vary.

And... to complete the question to William... not only stability, but income?

[Mew 0]

Mew,

That was the general idea, that pay stubs would support the other financial evidence, with respect to income level and stability. The idea being to give a complete picture of your financial status.

And as Trey pointed out, that worked in his case.

Thanks, William! I thought I had understood what you meant but I just wanted to make sure.

[Chris and Mariana 0]

I am in a similar situation and have an interview scheduled for 9/26. I have tossed this issue around with no concrete answer from the embassy or anyone. So I am having a co sponsor just in case. It isn't worth it to me to be denied for not having a cosponsor, even though I probably don't need one. If they don't need it then it really doesn't matter anyway. At least you have it if they need it.

Good Luck,

Chris

[Mocha 0]

Thanks for all of the input, I appreciate it

[Yodrak 7]

YuAndDan,

While reading the I-134 instructions is a fine idea, note that I-134 does not establish the documentary requirements for proving that a K-visa applicant meets the public charge provisions of the law. Indeed, I-134 is optional, to be used at the discretion of the consular officer processing the visa application.

Form DS-2000 (formerly OF-167), entitled 'Evidence That May Be Presented To Meet The Public Charge Provisions Of The Law', gives a better idea of what financial information and documentation should be submitted.

Yodrak

Dude, he just stated that he just graduated college and started working in July. Your response does not address his question.

Provide them with 1-3 past years tax returns, what pays stubs that you have, doing the math on them will show your income level. And most important, a letter from your employer clearly stating your salary, and that you are full time, length of contract ect.

True, but the letter from employer is for situations like this, the letter establishes his income level.

Note read the instructions included with form I-134.

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