employment issue with expired green card

[Meg and Grae 1]

Hi guys,

My green card expired last February but I have the 1 year extension letter while my caise is pending. My employer is asking for evidence that I am legally able to work. My SSN card states "Valid for work only with DHS authorization". How do I get a SSN card without this notice on it?

Can i go to my local Social security offie with my 1 year extension letter and get a new SSN card?

Thanks,

Grae

[Meg and Grae 1]

I have just looked at the I-9 form and the last page in list C of "Documents that Establish Employment Authorization" states:

"Employment authorization document issued by the Department of Homeland Security"

Is this not my extension letter issued to me by the DHS? I would assume this is what I should present to me employer

[Anh map 2,098]

The notice/extension letter extends the validity of your green card. A copy of the notice is what your employer would need.

[Otto 83]

**Topic may be most appropriate in our Working & Traveling During US Immigration (rather than in AOS Family-Based); moving thread there.

[rika60607 215]

You need to update your SSN card, take your GC + extension letter to SS office.

My SSN card states "Valid for work only with DHS authorization". How do I get a SSN card without this notice on it?

Can i go to my local Social security offie with my 1 year extension letter and get a new SSN card?

Thanks,

Grae

[damulag 26]

You need to update your SSN card, take your GC + extension letter to SS office.

When we tried that they would not accept the extension letter at the SS office but her did after some explaining how the system works. The issue is that the I-9 form does not list the extension letter as a valid document, this is something I think the government should change.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

The I-9 form contains 3 lists of documents that are accepted to prove your identity and your authorization to work. Before you read any further, google I-9 form, download it and look at it.

LIST A establishes the identity of the person and the authorization to work. It contains federally issued photo IDs such as a US passport book, a US passport card, and a Green Card.

List B establishes the identity only. It contains a state-issued driver's license, among other documents.

List C establishes the authorization to work. It contains an unrestricted SS card.

You'll need to show either a document from List A, or a document from List B and a document from List C. In plain English, you'll need to show your Green Card, or your driver's license and an unrestricted SS card.

You have therefore two options:

1) show your Green Card and the formal letter from the United States Government extending the validity of your Green Card for another year. You have that, and if your employer doesn't accept that, it's time for your attorney to write a letter threatening a law suit for violation of federal law and discrimination based on where you are from.

2) show your driver's license and an unrestricted SS card. Again, like in option 1, your Green Card and the formal letter from the United States Government extending the validity of your Green Card for another year is sufficient to get a new Green Card without the "Valid with DHS authorization only" on it. If a brainless drone at the SSA gives you attitude, ask for her name first, then for the supervisor. If that doesn't help come back with an attorney or go to another SSA office.

[Meg and Grae 1]

Hi guys,

Thanks very much for the advice. I have presented my employer with my one year extension letter and my valid drivers license and they seem to be happy with it. i was at the Social Security office this morning and applied for a new SSN card without "valid for work only with DHS authorization". The representative said I will get it in the mail but wasn't sure whether the new card will still have this notice on it or not.

[Meg and Grae 1]

When we tried that they would not accept the extension letter at the SS office but her did after some explaining how the system works. The issue is that the I-9 form does not list the extension letter as a valid document, this is something I think the government should change.

Hmmm..I had a look at list of valid documents on the I-9. The last page states: "lists of acceptable documents", LIST C "Documents that Establish Employment Authorization", column b: "Employment authorization document issued by the Department of Homeland Security"

Seeing as my extension letter is issued by the DHS and states that I am authorized to work and travel, one would think that the extension letter falls under column b: "Employment authorization document issued by the Department of Homeland Security"

The representative at the SS office looked at my extension letter accepted it as a valid document. The only thing she was not sure about was whether my new SSN card will not have "valid for work only with DHS authorization" still written on it. Ill find out in two weeks or so.

Edited June 8, 2011 by Meg and Grae

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Hmmm..I had a look at list of valid documents on the I-9. The last page states: "lists of acceptable documents", LIST C "Documents that Establish Employment Authorization", column b: "Employment authorization document issued by the Department of Homeland Security"

That would be the EAD, the document for people who are not LPRs (yet) but are authorized to work.

Seeing as my extension letter is issued by the DHS and states that I am authorized to work and travel, one would think that the extension letter falls under column b: "Employment authorization document issued by the Department of Homeland Security"

Nope. The NOA1 is just like a fresh date sticker on your Green Card.

The representative at the SS office looked at my extension letter accepted it as a valid document. The only thing she was not sure about was whether my new SSN card will not have "valid for work only with DHS authorization" still written on it. Ill find out in two weeks or so.

It should have no "restriction" on it. That's the whole point of the exercise, isn't it?

Edited June 9, 2011 by Just Bob

[Harsh_77 718]

You need to update your SSN card, take your GC + extension letter to SS office.

You do not need to update the SSN card. You can if you want to its not mandated.

Infact I kept mine with the line in there on purpose, less likely to be stolen and less chance of ssn card being mis-used.

[Meg and Grae 1]

That would be the EAD, the document for people who are not LPRs (yet) but are authorized to work.

Nope. The NOA1 is just like a fresh date sticker on your Green Card.

It should have no "restriction" on it. That's the whole point of the exercise, isn't it?

i see, thanks for clearing those points up. Yes, that's the point of the new card, but the representative there wasn't entirely sure. She accepted my extension letter, but had a somewhat confused look on her face when she saw it.

Edited June 10, 2011 by Meg and Grae

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

That's because people who work for the SSA are as clueless about their very own job as it gets.

[John&Juvy 36]

i see, thanks for clearing those points up. Yes, that's the point of the new card, but the representative there wasn't entirely sure. She accepted my extension letter, but had a somewhat confused look on her face when she saw it.

Our human resources person asked me also to submit a copy of my green card again after my 2 years employment. I gave her my photo copy of my expired green card and show her the original copy of my extension letter and explain to her the process. She read the letter and she was fine about it. No need to update SSN card.

[John&Juvy 36]

You need to update your SSN card, take your GC + extension letter to SS office.

I think what the employer need is your legal documents from Homeland Security that you are still allowed to work in the United States and still living leggaly here. It's explain to that extension letter that it is valid for travel and employment of one year extension in your green card expiration. That should be enough .