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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Australia
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Hey we´re all grown ups here. Calling any advice a "Bad advice" is not an insult! Please do not be insulted by someone disagreeing with you. If you feel your advice was not bad then you explain why your advice was good and what you meant to say.

But here is what you said:

"The petitioner needs to send a letter requesting termination of the visa process"

Comon on girl! Please admit that sounds more like "kill the whole petition" than "If the spouse does not wish to travel then cancel her portion of the visa process" .... and being that the wife is just a derivative of her husband, who is the principal beneficiary of the F4, then It really is a stretch to say : Oh I meant to say just the wife!

I agree with Inky I read what she said and did not interpret it that to cancel the whole application just for his wife. It seems to me you need to read more clearly and Inky is correct he needs to cancel her visa process. She said nothing about cancelling for the others.

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Jamaica
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The US immigration process is not a THE PRICE IS RIGHT SHOW, so come on down. You'll give advise and is forgetting the primary reason as to the what and why purpose for granting family members visas to this country.

too funny....lol the land of opportunity

Current cut off date F2A - Current 

Brother's Journey (F2A) - PD Dec 30, 2010


Dec 30 2010 - Notice of Action 1 (NOA1)
May 12 2011 - Notice of Action 2 (NOA2)
May 23 2011 - NVC case # Assigned
Nov 17 2011 - COA / I-864 received
Nov 18 2011 - Sent COA
Apr 30 2012 - Pay AOS fee

Oct 15 2012 - Pay IV fee
Oct 25 2012 - Sent AOS/IV Package

Oct 29 2012 - Pkg Delivered
Dec 24 2012 - Case Complete

May 17 2013 - Interview-Approved

July 19 2013 - Enter the USA

"... Answer when you are called..."

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Jamaica
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The petitioner needs to send a letter requesting termination of the visa process.

good.gif correct. The English language can be very complex and you have mastered this by showing that you are able to respond to a question. I've found that not many can do this.. they begin to talk and the question is left unanswered... The question was asked about the WIFE and how to proceed since she wont budge. Send a letter requesting that she be removed..

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Current cut off date F2A - Current 

Brother's Journey (F2A) - PD Dec 30, 2010


Dec 30 2010 - Notice of Action 1 (NOA1)
May 12 2011 - Notice of Action 2 (NOA2)
May 23 2011 - NVC case # Assigned
Nov 17 2011 - COA / I-864 received
Nov 18 2011 - Sent COA
Apr 30 2012 - Pay AOS fee

Oct 15 2012 - Pay IV fee
Oct 25 2012 - Sent AOS/IV Package

Oct 29 2012 - Pkg Delivered
Dec 24 2012 - Case Complete

May 17 2013 - Interview-Approved

July 19 2013 - Enter the USA

"... Answer when you are called..."

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Filed: F-1 Visa Country: El Salvador
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OMG!... so many people who I respect and admire so much here at VJ, like Penguin and Ricardo4EVA2, say Inky was right ... so I had to take a look back and read again the whole topic, just to make sure… but I am sorry guys … I can not agree with you this time.

Here is what Inky said:

It is not bad advice. The person does not wish to travel and has no want to move to the USA. So terminating the visa is the next step.

It does not prevent a USC or USC child from returning to the USA if they wish to return. It only prevents the foreigner from being able to get a green card and move to the USA.

If you say = “It does not prevent a USC or USC child from returning to the USA if they wish to return” … this proves it was not understood it was and F4 category case. The husband and the child are not USC, the husband is the principal beneficiary of a petition filed by his brother (the USC) and the child and his wife are derivatives of the F4.

So whose process is it? … it is the principal beneficiary’s process … so if you say “request termination of the visa process” it is more likely to interpret it as “kill the petition for the main beneficiary” than just “kill the petition for an specific person who is a derivative of the whole process”.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Rick, you are arguing semantics now. Inky has clarified what she meant in case it was unclear to you.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Jamaica
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OMG!... so many people who I respect and admire so much here at VJ, like Penguin and Ricardo4EVA2, say Inky was right ... so I had to take a look back and read again the whole topic, just to make sure… but I am sorry guys … I can not agree with you this time.

Thank you for the admiration Rick.. I'm a Rick too. I have MUCH love for you... trust me that nothin I say will turn me from you. Just touchin on what was said. Hey i'm glad you read over what was said and now understand and a bigger person to agree. Believe me.. I have had my run-INs but it doesnt prevent me from saying what will be said.

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Current cut off date F2A - Current 

Brother's Journey (F2A) - PD Dec 30, 2010


Dec 30 2010 - Notice of Action 1 (NOA1)
May 12 2011 - Notice of Action 2 (NOA2)
May 23 2011 - NVC case # Assigned
Nov 17 2011 - COA / I-864 received
Nov 18 2011 - Sent COA
Apr 30 2012 - Pay AOS fee

Oct 15 2012 - Pay IV fee
Oct 25 2012 - Sent AOS/IV Package

Oct 29 2012 - Pkg Delivered
Dec 24 2012 - Case Complete

May 17 2013 - Interview-Approved

July 19 2013 - Enter the USA

"... Answer when you are called..."

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Filed: F-1 Visa Country: El Salvador
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Rick, you are arguing semantics now. Inky has clarified what she meant in case it was unclear to you.

Penguin:

Yes I agree with you that probably the best way to handle this will be to send a letter to NVC requesting removal of the wife from the whole process. And this is what the OP really needs to know and asked for.

Now back to the discussion of the original advice:

I do not agree that the way the first advice was given, was a good one.

“USC child” is not semantics and it is proof of the misunderstanding of this case at first… it is upthere for everyone to read it.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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We can argue what Inky meant or not, but in general OP would have some difficulty with such a case at point of interview.

If the wife is not ready to travel to US and is dropped from application and at the time of interview CO would be wanting to know what is the wife and mom of the kid going to do.

Unless they are planning a divorce by then or something...

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Filed: FB-4 Visa Country: Peru
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People please calm down!

Well, I really frightened a bit while reading Inky's advise. Was too cold or something.

In fact this is a 2nd part. So there was a 1st one with further details.

Well my wife had so bad relations with my famlily in US, they never accepted her as my wife for fool reasons and also in her hometown lives the only 2 brothers who knows her and less than 4 friends, she doesn't even know english language and is about 50's, she considered that in no way is convenient for her to go there where everything is different, culture, dishes, and the only ones who knows her "hates" her is some way.

My child is not really a child (>21) and possibly won't be accepted, he already knows that and agrees in advance with NVC decision.

I read that Ricardo said I should send a letter to NVC requesting termination of my Wife process. If this is right I would like to know if my applicant (my bro) would do this personally since he lives there or I must do all this?; and also if I should send this letter attached to NVC documents requested package or separately from all this? It must be legalized or something similar?

Or I must send her documents in any case but allow her not to going to interview?

Thanks for all the responses. And for the active participation of all VJ Masters here.

Best regards.

PD: The argue here remembered me when I also argued mom for semantics too.

Personally I believe what Inky tried to say was that right but her way to do it was misleading in some way.

Sorry for all grammatical mistakes if found.

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Jamaica
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Hey the information I gave you is still correct yes.

This ongoing dilemma can easily be fixed.. So easy that I am glad to say.

Send an email to NVCINQUIRY@STATE.GOV

Put case # on subject line, include case details in the body of the email. Write that the derivative (wife) will not be travelling. The email will be accepted... No doubt. Once the email is received the wife will still be listed but will have a "no process" status.

Current cut off date F2A - Current 

Brother's Journey (F2A) - PD Dec 30, 2010


Dec 30 2010 - Notice of Action 1 (NOA1)
May 12 2011 - Notice of Action 2 (NOA2)
May 23 2011 - NVC case # Assigned
Nov 17 2011 - COA / I-864 received
Nov 18 2011 - Sent COA
Apr 30 2012 - Pay AOS fee

Oct 15 2012 - Pay IV fee
Oct 25 2012 - Sent AOS/IV Package

Oct 29 2012 - Pkg Delivered
Dec 24 2012 - Case Complete

May 17 2013 - Interview-Approved

July 19 2013 - Enter the USA

"... Answer when you are called..."

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