CR1 Visa Denied at US Embassy

[Dumb/Dumber 61]

Just to be clear, a fraud investigation is primarily focused on the intentions of the foreigner, not the intentions of the US Citizen petitioner. Some fraud is mutual but most is not. Clearly one of their concerns is that he applied for a student visa while in a relationship with a US Citizen. Many pertinent facts are missing from the initial post, which may or may not shed light on the problem.

They are the same age, but how old? (This pertains to whether they are of "student" age.)

They have at least been acquainted since before the student visa was applied for. For how long and how serious was the relationship? The OP says the engagement wasn't "official" but just what WAS the relationship status when the student visa was applied for? Evasive answers raise suspicion.

How did the couple meet and how did their relationship develop?

Does the foreigner have family in the USA already?

If everything is on the up and up, the visa will probably eventually be approved, but it sounds like they are investigating to rule out first, whether the student visa application was an attempt to circumvent immigration law. If it was, that's a problem. We don't have the facts but the OP does.

This is great straight talk and encouraging advice that should be appreciated by all of us.

Always speak the truth come whence it may, cost what it will. (Not sure who said that, but I keep this saying close to my heart.)

[Casprd 167]

Tout d'abord, pas de panique!

Vous devez vous mobilizes et reagire vite. Si votre relation est sinsaire, montrez-le.

En basent sur notre experience avec l'ambassade US en Algerie, je vous conseille de reagir rapidement et de leur envoyer par e-mail tout les preuves que vous pouvez leur donnez pour fournir les preuves de votre relation. Les lettres, les copies des billets de voyage, des visa, des photos, les check de payements, les list des appels, tout, tout, jusqu'a derniere petite preuve. Ecrivez les lettres explicant en details comment se construisais votre relation. Demandez vos parents, amies et les gens, qui sont capables de confirmer votre relation, d'ecrire les lettres de soutients. Qu'ils ecrivent comment ils le sentent, que de vrais temoignages.

L'aide de senateur etais tres precieuse pour nous.

Pensais d'aider aux service consulaire dans leur travail, soyez positive et proposez tout votre participation et ouveture.

Les appels ne pas fonctionnez dans notre cas, ni les demandes de r.v.

Apres trois semaines d'effort nous avons eu notre visa et nous sommes ensemble et tres heureux.

Bonne chanche!

Sadly, I think proving their relationship isn't the issue. As others have pointed out, there appears to be something in the beneficiaries background that has tripped some red flag. The first question would be why was the student visa denied and when was it denied. If it was a very short time period between this and the two of you getting engaged then that is going to raise a big red flag. The CO's don't cite potential fraud frivilously. More information on what happened with the student visa and the timelines involved will help people to give better advise on how to address this.

[able81 0]

This silly consular are wasting people's life,energy and money.my fiancee was also put on AP for no apparent reason. I know how how hard to live without your love one especially when you already thought you will be seeing them after the interview. Don't give up,keep praying to God.

[Done--Really 331]

Look, we have all said the same thing in different ways--first come clean with yourself about what the red flags might be, and then tell us so that others with the same experiecne can help. So far you have not answered a single question that is intended to help--not hurt. Suck it up, girl, and then we can get focused on a solution. No details--no help--pretty simple isn't it.

[dhau 0]

Will the Waiver of Ineligibility help in this case?

[Done--Really 331]

dhau--until they tell us the problem there is no way to know if a waiver is appropriate-- so let's wait until she comes back with some details, and if a waiver is a possibility, we will send her to a different web site that specializes in waivers

[Rushton50 10]

Just to be clear, a fraud investigation is primarily focused on the intentions of the foreigner, not the intentions of the US Citizen petitioner. Some fraud is mutual but most is not. Clearly one of their concerns is that he applied for a student visa while in a relationship with a US Citizen. Many pertinent facts are missing from the initial post, which may or may not shed light on the problem.

They are the same age, but how old? (This pertains to whether they are of "student" age.)

They have at least been acquainted since before the student visa was applied for. For how long and how serious was the relationship? The OP says the engagement wasn't "official" but just what WAS the relationship status when the student visa was applied for? Evasive answers raise suspicion.

How did the couple meet and how did their relationship develop?

Does the foreigner have family in the USA already?

If everything is on the up and up, the visa will probably eventually be approved, but it sounds like they are investigating to rule out first, whether the student visa application was an attempt to circumvent immigration law. If it was, that's a problem. We don't have the facts but the OP does.

Totally agree with this post and speculation and conjecture is futile it is best to wait to hear what they want as supporting evidence if anything or whatever they are doing during this time, but as said, If you have been 100% honest with them then there is nothing to worry about, just another part of the waiting game Im affraid

[amesa 9]

Tout d'abord, pas de panique!

Vous devez vous mobilizes et reagire vite. Si votre relation est sinsaire, montrez-le.

En basent sur notre experience avec l'ambassade US en Algerie, je vous conseille de reagir rapidement et de leur envoyer par e-mail tout les preuves que vous pouvez leur donnez pour fournir les preuves de votre relation. Les lettres, les copies des billets de voyage, des visa, des photos, les check de payements, les list des appels, tout, tout, jusqu'a derniere petite preuve. Ecrivez les lettres explicant en details comment se construisais votre relation. Demandez vos parents, amies et les gens, qui sont capables de confirmer votre relation, d'ecrire les lettres de soutients. Qu'ils ecrivent comment ils le sentent, que de vrais temoignages.

L'aide de senateur etais tres precieuse pour nous.

Pensais d'aider aux service consulaire dans leur travail, soyez positive et proposez tout votre participation et ouveture.

Les appels ne pas fonctionnez dans notre cas, ni les demandes de r.v.

Apres trois semaines d'effort nous avons eu notre visa et nous sommes ensemble et tres heureux.

Bonne chanche!

Write in English please...

[Nicole-N-Nattoy 24]

Sounds like maybe he didn't mention your relationship in his student visa but the dates on the spousal one show that he did indeed have a relationship with you while applying for a student visa. How long did he wait after the student visa was denied to apply for a spousal visa? Possibly there is something he's not telling you. Why is he getting all these denials? Maybe they can't approve everyone so because he has a little something that could be called a red flag they are going to use that. That is what I got from your post.

Edited May 25, 2011 by Nicole-N-Nattoy

[san diego 407]

I do not think applying for student visa is the cause for denial while having relationship. I think the likely cause is that he failed to disclose that he applied for visa in the form before the interview. Did he indicated that he applied for visa and get denied in the form DS-156? If he did not this will definitely be a problem.

[Nicole-N-Nattoy 24]

i see your point and that could be but in the post it states that the consular asked him why he didn't mention that he had a fiancee in the student visa process and then went on to say that this is a bizarre case.

[san diego 407]

This seems strange. Non-immigrant visas do not ask if you have a fiancee in US. It asks if you have relatives in US, which he would answer "no" since fiancee is not relative.

[pushbrk 12,883]

This seems strange. Non-immigrant visas do not ask if you have a fiancee in US. It asks if you have relatives in US, which he would answer "no" since fiancee is not relative.

The new DS160 doesn't ask but the DS156 used prior to that absolutely does. I don't know which application this person would have used.

[dhau 0]

I am in a similar situation. My spouse applied for student visa and was denied. She was not engaged or married during the time so she didn't mention me in her student visa application. But we married after a short time and I applied for F2A. Should I expect the same for my spouse during interview?

Is there anything we can do?

[Harsh_77 718]

This silly consular are wasting people's life,energy and money.my fiancee was also put on AP for no apparent reason. I know how how hard to live without your love one especially when you already thought you will be seeing them after the interview. Don't give up,keep praying to God.

LOL – you can call them silly or rant whatever. CO’s are not stupid they only put ppl on AP when they see something is not adding up.

Especially some Asian countries and African countries which have high fraud rate ppl are going to be put in AP.