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Hello: I'm a male 56 yrs old in USA, my Fiancee is 36 yrs old in Vietnam. We skyped 3 years over internet have been engaged about a year over the internet, and I visited her for 3 weeks a couple months ago. She has a son age 9 and she's been divorced for about 9 years as well.

We have been told that because Vietnam is one of the most strengent countries to allow their citizens to leave, that getting married there helps to insure her country allowing her to leave which would = a Cr-1 if I understand correctly.

On the other hand.. I've had an attorney to tell me just the opposite, that the CR-1 paper work makes it about 6 times more likely to encounter denials from either country, and he recommended a K1 for her and I think it is a K2 for the son.

Doe's anyone know which K1 / K2 or CR-1 is most appropiate for my Fiancee ? Which would insure her the best chances of being allowed to leave Vietnam though the eyes of the vietnamese government ?

Also as an american citizen I was told with a K1 I would not need a physical, but with a CR1 (K3) Vietnam would require a stringent physical there. Does anyone know about this ?

Thanks in advance for any and all help.

John II

That lady knows very well she needs to get here (the States) quickly so her son can benefit from the American educational system early. Maybe her family (ie. siblings) already tried to file a petition for her family. However, she knows very well it would take at least 10 years for that type of petition to get approved. Her son would be too old by then.

What a typical classic textbook immigration story: Mom got a early teen child/children. She knows the quickest way to get to America is via a USC. Therefore, she divorced her former hubby (the child's father). After she and her children/child step their feet on America and obtain citizenship 3 years later, find a clever excuse to file for divorce. A couple years later, reconciling with the former X hubby.

But of course, Dau Que is crazy and a moron! He's just imagining these things in his head. No such thing ever occurs in real life.

Just remember, life over there in VN is NOT real! Your money will be worth a LOT less once you get back over here. Back to reality, cowboy!

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But of course, Dau Que is crazy and a moron! He's just imagining these things in his head. No such thing ever occurs in real life.

No, not crazy and not a moron. Those things do happen, and there's nothing wrong with warning people about them. What's wrong is presuming every case is primarily motivated by fraud, and then delivering that conclusion with the subtlety of a sledge hammer to the forehead.

I'll jump off my moral high horse for a moment and proclaim that every relationship on VJ includes a desire to move to the US. If there was no desire then they wouldn't be bothering with the immigration process. I'll go even further and state that a disproportionate number of foreign beneficiary's in Vietnam are motivated more by their desire to immigrate than anything else, and some are motivated by nothing else. There, I've said it.

You'll help people a lot more if you can point out the signs that would indicate to the petitioner that they might be getting played for a green card, rather than concluding that it must be fraud if the beneficiary is Vietnamese and they're breathing.

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No, not crazy and not a moron. Those things do happen, and there's nothing wrong with warning people about them. What's wrong is presuming every case is primarily motivated by fraud, and then delivering that conclusion with the subtlety of a sledge hammer to the forehead.

I'll jump off my moral high horse for a moment and proclaim that every relationship on VJ includes a desire to move to the US. If there was no desire then they wouldn't be bothering with the immigration process. I'll go even further and state that a disproportionate number of foreign beneficiary's in Vietnam are motivated more by their desire to immigrate than anything else, and some are motivated by nothing else. There, I've said it.

You'll help people a lot more if you can point out the signs that would indicate to the petitioner that they might be getting played for a green card, rather than concluding that it must be fraud if the beneficiary is Vietnamese and they're breathing.

Jim, with only the limited info the OP provided, noone can know for sure what the circumstances are for this particular case. Heck, I can bet the OP wouldn't even know for sure 100% about her and her family (including the former hubby). Don't be so sure an X-spouse means they don't have a physical relationship behind the current one's back. A night at a rented hotel room isn't outta reach for most working Vnese, right?

Now back to this case, being at 36 with one young child and her willingness to get involved with someone 20 years older half around the world (might not even speak her tongue language and fully understand her country custom and traditions), I'm sure she's madly in love with the OP of this thread!!!!!!!!

Let me just read in between the lines for everyone, including the OP. Her son is 9 years old and she divorced him 9 years ago! Got where I'm heading?

Just remember, life over there in VN is NOT real! Your money will be worth a LOT less once you get back over here. Back to reality, cowboy!

 
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