We are Democrats .. and we're against gay marriage

[Obama 2012 1,714]

So the SCOTUS is wrong in claiming that marriage is a basic civil right? They don't know sh!t and you know it all? Get over yourself, kiddo.

A judge can believe it's a right to punch your neighbor in the face, that doesn't make it automatically so.

Again, tell me, by WHAT authority does the SCOTUS have to force a state to do something that they do not offer/have.

You can believe marriage is a right all you want. You can believe that you have a right to own a kangaroo all you want. That's fine and dandy. However the SCOTUS has no say over such actions unless they are part of a LAW on the books.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Again, tell me, by WHAT authority does the SCOTUS have to force a state to do something that they do not offer/have.

I have not claimed that the SCOTUS has that authority. I have claimed only that the SCOTUS has the right to strike down any law that infringes upon an individual's rights granted under the Constitution. The Supreme Court has ruled that marriage is a part of the Constitution's protections of liberty, privacy, freedom of association, and spiritual identification. You can dislike it all you want and it won't matter a first damn bit.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

I have not claimed that the SCOTUS has that authority. I have claimed only that the SCOTUS has the right to strike down any law that infringes upon an individual's rights granted under the Constitution. The Supreme Court has ruled that marriage is a part of the Constitution's protections of liberty, privacy, freedom of association, and spiritual identification. You can dislike it all you want and it won't matter a first damn bit.

As I even said earlier, if you want to consider yourself 'married,' then go right on ahead.

A STATE however does not have to offer any type of marriage/civil contract.

At the end of the day, marriage is an 'individual' institution, not a government one. It only becomes a government one when there are laws regarding such a thing.

Actually, if you want to get technical on what you just said, then the state cannot offer any type of contract in regards to marriage, because at that point your 'right' is being controlled by the state and not you.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

A STATE however does not have to offer any type of marriage/civil contract.

States recognize marriage and need to do so as long as there is one state in the union left performing them. And marriage isn't going anywhere - it's here to stay. It's the fabric of society - however much some want to tear on it. The fact is that all states recognize and perform marriages. Many states recognize marriage in their constitutions. And some see it fit to deny this basic rights arbitrarily to certain individuals. And this is where the SCOTUS will come in and tell the states that they cannot deny this basic civil right to same sex partners. And the SCOTUS will make that finding based on the same premise on which it overturned Virginia's ban of interracial marriages less than 50 years ago - the premise that marriage is a basic civil right protected under the Constitution. We're not far away from that decision.

Edited May 20, 2011 by Mr. Big Dog

[Danno 1,228]

States recognize marriage and need to do so as long as there is one state in the union left performing them. And marriage isn't going anywhere - it's here to stay. It's the fabric of society - however much some want to tear on it. The fact is that all states recognize and perform marriages. Many states recognize marriage in their constitutions. And some see it fit to deny this basic rights arbitrarily to certain individuals. And this is where the SCOTUS will come in and tell the states that they cannot deny this basic civil right to same sex partners. And the SCOTUS will make that finding based on the same premise on which it overturned Virginia's ban of interracial marriages less than 50 years ago - the premise that marriage is a basic civil right protected under the Constitution. We're not far away from that decision.

They better act quick because thanks to the Obama fail many State legislatures went Red and even more states will be moving towards heading off gay marriage.

In nearly every case... when the people choose they say HELL NO to **-marriage.

I't one thing for the Scotus to override VA, I rather doubt they will try to override the majority of states on an issue that has no simple principle.. such as "Where do we draw the line about what constitutes a marriage".

[웃 910]

What iz this? The U.S. of Ghey?

[웃 910]

In nearly every case... when the people choose they say HELL NO to **-marriage.

Why are you against "**-marriage"? What is the big deal?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Eevn some Democrats are so life-less that they have to be worried about what other adults do in their bedroom.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Why are you against "**-marriage"? What is the big deal?

Danno fears that his bf will ask to marry him.

[Danno 1,228]

Danno fears that his bf will ask to marry him.

He is already married.

[Danno 1,228]

Eevn some Democrats are so life-less that they have to be worried about what other adults do in their bedroom.

Dems are obsessed with that goes on in the bedroom and every other room in your house..... why even down to the lightbulbs and toilets.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

He is already married.

Your bf? Damn, what are you going to do?

[Vi-Jay 218]

Dems are obsessed with that goes on in the bedroom and every other room in your house..... why even down to the lightbulbs and toilets.

Those smaller tanks do not do the job. Sometimes.

I will say that I am contributing to water conservation.

I try to make sure I pee in the shower.

That way I save at least 1.5 liters per day and sometimes I take 2-3 showers in one day.

Adds up. Go Green!

Your bf? Damn, what are you going to do?

Maybe Danno is a woman?

[Vi-Jay 218]

marriage is a basic right, it's protected under the Constitution.

Bingo!

[Vi-Jay 218]

In Loving vs. Virginia, the Supreme Court held that "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man,

Bingo 2