You know you're a F2A filer when...

[katiemanny 64]

The american spirit so proud aren't you. whatever you say.

You have no right to tell me how I spend my own money. It's none of your business. "siphon money out of the US?" Most of the big US corporations has be doing that through outsourcing. yes, The United States corporations. I guess those people who runs the corporations shouldn't consider themselves as American.

Most Corporations that outsourced jobs wants to save money, healthcare cost, increase productivity while keeping expenses at its minimum, so the real answer is they don't siphon money outside the US, they go after cheap labor to save money.

As Jim stated if you aren't willing to consider yourself as an American Citizen and be proud of it, Don't apply for Citizenship. Many just stay LPR

[PD is Current. 50]

Most Corporations that outsourced jobs wants to save money, healthcare cost, increase productivity while keeping expenses at its minimum, so the real answer is they don't siphon money outside the US, they go after cheap labor to save money.

if the jobs/projects are being outsourced, doesn't that mean some wages that would have been earned in the US is now being earned by foreign workers/foreign company? isn't the money being siphoned out of the US this way?

even if you disagree, it isn't so "American" to ship your jobs overseas while leaving your fellow American citizenship unemployed isn't it?

[katiemanny 64]

if the jobs/projects are being outsourced, doesn't that mean some wages that would have been earned in the US is now being earned by foreign workers/foreign company? isn't the money being siphoned out of the US this way?

even if you disagree, it isn't so "American" to ship your jobs overseas while leaving your fellow American citizenship unemployed isn't it?

They tax these corporations through their teeth, and most of them still maintain a lot of jobs within the US, and headquarters always is in the US, for example Match.com outsourced some of their customer care agents to the Dominican Republic, and headquarters is in Dallas, they have a call center in NC. The US still benefits from these companies that outsourced jobs to India or Vietnam.

Edited May 20, 2011 by katiemanny

[-mitch- 3]

There was a massive influx of European immigrants to the US in the early 20th century. Most of them eventually became US citizens. They referred to their country of origin as the "old country", but they considered themselves to be Americans and they considered America to be their home.

When you become a US citizen you are required to swear an oath.

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

Read this oath carefully. You will be abandoning all loyalty and allegiance to any country other than the United States. You will be agreeing to support the US constitution, to fight in war if called upon, or serve in a non-combat role. If you cannot swear this oath and actually mean it then please do not become a US citizen.

The absolute worst reason to become a US citizen is because you want to help other family members immigrate, and help siphon money out of the US to send back to your home country. If this is your intention then please remain as a permanent resident and a guest of the United States, but don't become a citizen if you don't consider yourself to be an American, above any other nationality.

been reading it so many times and trying to find a thing that is prohibiting us to call our country of birth HOME.

you should tell them to add that in.

like maybe : ANYONE WHO IS A US CITIZEN SHOULD TOTALLY FORGET THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, CANNOT EVEN CALL IT A HOME! hows that?

[PD is Current. 50]

Ditto

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

The american spirit so proud aren't you. whatever you say.

You have no right to tell me how I spend my own money. It's none of your business. "siphon money out of the US?" Most of the big US corporations has be doing that through outsourcing. yes, The United States corporations. I guess those people who runs the corporations shouldn't consider themselves as American.

I'm not telling you how to spend your money. I'm questioning your motives and possibly even your morals.

I have no problem with someone who wants to work in America and send their money back "home". Remain a permanent resident, and do this for as long as you like. Becoming an American citizen demands absolute loyalty to the United States and no other country. This is why I told you to read the oath carefully. Becoming an American citizen is not something you do because it makes immigration more expedient. You do it because you WANT to be an American. If you don't mean every word of that oath then you are taking it with "mental reservation". If you have an ulterior motive in becoming a citizen then you are doing so for "purpose of evasion".

Yes, I am proud to be an American. If you're not then please don't become one.

been reading it so many times and trying to find a thing that is prohibiting us to call our country of birth HOME.

you should tell them to add that in.

like maybe : ANYONE WHO IS A US CITIZEN SHOULD TOTALLY FORGET THEIR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, CANNOT EVEN CALL IT A HOME! hows that?

If America is not "home" for you then don't become a US citizen. There are hundreds of justifiable reasons for wanting to live in the US, but there's only one reason for becoming a US citizen - because you want to be an American. How would you feel if an American went to the Philippines and said he wanted to become a citizen, but he didn't really consider the Philippines to be his home? Would you want him to have the rights of a citizen? Would you want him voting in your elections?

[PD is Current. 50]

It sounds to me that if you were in my situation, you would remain a LPR and be separated from your loved ones for 4-5 years because you considered somewhere else home or because it's immoral to you. Maybe you are the kind of person that can withstand the unjust long wait, maybe your wife is also just as patient or as moral as you are.

It's easy for you to say because you did not have to wait 4-5 years to bring your girlfriend from Vietnam to the U.S. It only took you 6 months to bring her here and marry her through K-1, so you will never understand what LPR with F2A cases go through.

I will take the oath and I'll always think of China as my home because I was born and raised there.

If you think that's immoral (or worst "immigration evasion"), that's ok, think however you want, I could really care less.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

It sounds to me that if you were in my situation, you would remain a LPR and be separated from your loved ones for 4-5 years because you considered somewhere else home or because it's immoral to you. Maybe you are the kind of person that can withstand the unjust long wait, maybe your wife is also just as patient or as moral as you are.

It's easy for you to say because you did not have to wait 4-5 years to bring your girlfriend from Vietnam to the U.S. It only took you 6 months to bring her here and marry her through K-1, so you will never understand what LPR with F2A cases go through.

I will take the oath and I'll always think of China as my home because I was born and raised there.

If you think that's immoral (or worst "immigration evasion"), that's ok, think however you want, I could really care less.

Actually, if I was in your situation then I would have immigrated to Canada. Their oath of citizenship doesn't require you to abandon your allegiance to your home country.

[sweetpurple 0]

You know you're a F2A filer when...

1) You have a hard time explaining to people why you're married and your wife/husband ain't here

2) You wish you had married/met your wife when you were in H1-B (assuming you got your GC through H1-B)

3) You didn't bother to change your martial status at work or when filing taxes because it don't matter

4) Skype, MSN or QQ webcam with spouse becomes your daily life

5) You know the number of days to go before your next trip home

6) You start counting the number days on your next trip home even before you fly back to the states

7) PD, Cut-Off date, visa bulletin are always on your mind

8) You know the exact day to send in your N-400, right at 3 months prior to your fifth miserable year, not a day late

Feel free to add yours to this list

9. Praying every nite before go to bed, asked GOD to unite ASAP

[Saddle Bronc 124]

I really wanted to resist posting, but I'm sorry... I just can't!

Why are planning on applying for US citizenship if the five years have been "miserable", and you still consider China to be "home"? It's just sounds like you'd be a lot happier moving back to China.

The wait for the spouse is the misery about which the OP was posting.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

You know you're a F2A filer when...

1) You have a hard time explaining to people why you're married and your wife/husband ain't here

2) You wish you had married/met your wife when you were in H1-B (assuming you got your GC through H1-B)

3) You didn't bother to change your martial status at work or when filing taxes because it don't matter

4) Skype, MSN or QQ webcam with spouse becomes your daily life

5) You know the number of days to go before your next trip home

6) You start counting the number days on your next trip home even before you fly back to the states

7) PD, Cut-Off date, visa bulletin are always on your mind

8) You know the exact day to send in your N-400, right at 3 months prior to your fifth miserable year, not a day late

Feel free to add yours to this list

10. You're trying to figure out how to get your spouse in on a F-1 (student visa) or work visa (assume spouse is not Canuck, so TN-1 not applicable).

[Rick_ES_USA 13]

You know you're a F2A filer when...

1) You have a hard time explaining to people why you're married and your wife/husband ain't here

2) You wish you had married/met your wife when you were in H1-B (assuming you got your GC through H1-B)

3) You didn't bother to change your martial status at work or when filing taxes because it don't matter

4) Skype, MSN or QQ webcam with spouse becomes your daily life

5) You know the number of days to go before your next trip home

6) You start counting the number days on your next trip home even before you fly back to the states

7) PD, Cut-Off date, visa bulletin are always on your mind

8) You know the exact day to send in your N-400, right at 3 months prior to your fifth miserable year, not a day late

Feel free to add yours to this list

11. You pray GOD everyday for US Congress to enact “Re-Uniting Families Act” which would make spouses and children of LPR immediate relatives

[PD is Current. 50]

11. You pray GOD everyday for US Congress to enact “Re-Uniting Families Act” which would make spouses and children of LPR immediate relatives

how can i miss this one haha good stuff!

[Rick_ES_USA 13]

You know you're a F2A filer when...

1) You have a hard time explaining to people why you're married and your wife/husband ain't here

2) You wish you had married/met your wife when you were in H1-B (assuming you got your GC through H1-B)

3) You didn't bother to change your martial status at work or when filing taxes because it don't matter

4) Skype, MSN or QQ webcam with spouse becomes your daily life

5) You know the number of days to go before your next trip home

6) You start counting the number days on your next trip home even before you fly back to the states

7) PD, Cut-Off date, visa bulletin are always on your mind

8) You know the exact day to send in your N-400, right at 3 months prior to your fifth miserable year, not a day late

Feel free to add yours to this list

12 - Sadly you have learned a new word in English = Retrogression (and hate it by the way)

[listeria 14]

12 - Sadly you have learned a new word in English = Retrogression (and hate it by the way)

13. US president goes around the world and preaches basic human rightss bla..bla. When he himself knows US immigration laws clearly separates families from 3-6 years -it is deniying a basic human right for the permanent residents when all other non-immigrant people who could bring their spouse and children to live in US.

14. Don't get punished by US government by becoming Permanant Resident if you are not yet married.