Visa Denied - Cairo (Age Difference)

[Dahlia 1]

To All,

I will cut the chase on our story why Visa was denied.

1. Hes appointment today May 18, 2011 from US Embassy in Cairo

2. He was given a number to wait for his turn

3. Called his number for fingerprint.

4. Called his name for the interview. The interviewer was in a room separated by a glass outside window for my fiance to stand over the microphone so they can talk to each other.

5. Ask him if he speak English or Arabic. Did not give him the chance to say English as the interviewer called for an interpreter right away.

6. Ask him how did he know me his answer was we meet on chat at yahoo messenger. My fiancee answer was by luck (I guess that set up a red flag)

7. Ask when did we meet the first time i came to Egypt. He answered 2007 until now

8. Ask if I was married before. He answered Yes and Divorce last year (I have been divorce only last year but separated for the ten years)

9. Ask if he I have any children he answered yes he have one daughter who is 33 years old and have one granchild.

10. Ask his age he answered 27 (CO said to him you are going to marry her and you are younger than her daughter)?

11. Did not give him the chance to answer that question.

12. Does your parents accept this person? His answer Yes.

13. The CO and the Interpreter talking about him that he does not trust him. He can speak fluent English as he teaches computer in a school in Egypt.

13. Ask him again why I do not stay in Egypt with him his answer was that I do not want to be away from my daughter and grandson.

14. The CO and the Interpreter was talking about him that he does not trust him. He can speak fluent English as he teaches computer class in Egypt.

15. After the interview the CO told him that they will Investigate about him and send the paperwork to US again. (hopefully for more evidence) Our paperwork and evidence will be sent with our application. We have no problem until the interview he said that he felt so intimidated and the CO have no respect for him. I did say to him that is what they do and that is their job. They know if you are telling the truth or not. He had given him the right answer no lie about it. The age have come up many times. We know from the beginning that the visa maybe denied because of our age difference. He is an honest man but i can understand the situation also. I tried to explain it to him. There is a big gap in our age 20 years and that is our problem. Him being 27 it makes him an opportunist and people think that all he want is to leave Egypt. He is not a bad person he is the most honest person i have ever met. Anyhow this is our story. myself i still own a business here and working. We have discuss the issue. I have known him for four years and trusted him. He works and does not rely on his family. He want me to go and live with him in Egypt get married there and go from there. I may like it there and stay for good and just visit my daughter and grandchild once a year in US. This is the only solution i can think of for now.

For people out there that is applying for a visa for their fiancee specially in Egypt as it is a big fraud and younger men older women involved maybe they all can learn from us what we went through. I understand what the Embassy is doing because of fraud in marriage is higher in those country. I know my fiance and he is a good man knowing him for four years i have no qualms about him as a person a very honest good family i have ever meet in my life. No scam or pretense in our part just being older and younger that is all our problem. He said to me he does not want to go to US anymore he just want me to be with him and be together. This is our story and Goodluck to all who is applying for their fiancee in Egypt. A lesson learned. I thank you for the board for making me tell our side of the story and all guidance you all have given to us. It was a long good, sad journey for us. Thank you Again for all your help...

[Samoray 165]

Good Luck to both of you in whatever you gonna do, thank you for sharing the interview experience

[Dahlia 1]

hi i went thru a similar situation even about the age difference and my suggestion is marry there and be prepared to stay with him for about a year. File cr-1 if you like you can pm me and tell you everything i can.

I have posted another post about the denial and the interview. We have discussed again today what we are going to do next and the only solution for us is to live in Egypt and i may like it there and stay for awhile and go from there. I am still working and i may just retire and quit my own business here. Our age difference did came up alot in his interview. He felt so intimidated and i told him that is their job to make sure that our relationship is not fraud. He did not like where he have to stand outside the room standing in a glass window with a microphone while the CO was sitting in his desk talking to him via microphone with an interpreter which he did not ask for an interpreter. He speak fluent English as a teacher. He teaches a computer class. I explain to him due to the situation in your country they do the interview for security reason. I have to calm him down and everything should be alright for us. Our next step now is for me to move to Egypt and he ask me if it is ok if I can move there I said there is no problem. I may open a business there doing hair as this is what I do. So i can get me a job very easily. Thank you for all your help it was a nice long informative journey for us.

[Dumb/Dumber 61]

Dahlia,

I posted on your earlier part one. I want you to not panic and think very long and hard on what you should do before you rush into anything. I tried to stay with my husband until the visa process was finished, but it was very very hard even though he loves me and I love him so much. At the time, he really just wanted me to stay with him in Turkey. He could have cared less about coming to America. But now he realizes that living in Turkey with him would not make me happy because I am so independent. I suggested earlier that you marry him and live in a third country until you think it is safe to apply for CR1. Safe meaning that you think you have enough evidence of true relationship that you won't get denied again. It is possible you could move to the Dominican Republic or somewhere else that is closer to the United States so you can visit your family more often. I own my home and I am thinking of renting it instead of selling it. I am also thinking of having him move before me and get set up there so at least one of us has a job before we move there together. There are so many options, but you need to research the options and think carefully before you jump.

I truly know exactly how you feel. Best of luck to you.

[Dahlia 1]

To All,

I will cut the chase on our story why Visa was denied.

1. Hes appointment today May 18, 2011 from US Embassy in Cairo

2. He was given a number to wait for his turn

3. Called his number for fingerprint.

4. Called his name for the interview. The interviewer was in a room separated by a glass outside window for my fiance to stand over the microphone so they can talk to each other.

5. Ask him if he speak English or Arabic. Did not give him the chance to say English as the interviewer called for an interpreter right away.

6. Ask him how did he know me his answer was we meet on chat at yahoo messenger. My fiancee answer was by luck (I guess that set up a red flag)

7. Ask when did we meet the first time i came to Egypt. He answered 2007 until now

8. Ask if I was married before. He answered Yes and Divorce last year (I have been divorce only last year but separated for the ten years)

9. Ask if he I have any children he answered yes he have one daughter who is 33 years old and have one granchild.

10. Ask his age he answered 27 (CO said to him you are going to marry her and you are younger than her daughter)?

11. Did not give him the chance to answer that question.

12. Does your parents accept this person? His answer Yes.

13. The CO and the Interpreter talking about him that he does not trust him. He can speak fluent English as he teaches computer in a school in Egypt.

13. Ask him again why I do not stay in Egypt with him his answer was that I do not want to be away from my daughter and grandson.

14. The CO and the Interpreter was talking about him that he does not trust him. He can speak fluent English as he teaches computer class in Egypt.

15. After the interview the CO told him that they will Investigate about him and send the paperwork to US again. (hopefully for more evidence) Our paperwork and evidence will be sent with our application. We have no problem until the interview he said that he felt so intimidated and the CO have no respect for him. I did say to him that is what they do and that is their job. They know if you are telling the truth or not. He had given him the right answer no lie about it. The age have come up many times. We know from the beginning that the visa maybe denied because of our age difference. He is an honest man but i can understand the situation also. I tried to explain it to him. There is a big gap in our age 20 years and that is our problem. Him being 27 it makes him an opportunist and people think that all he want is to leave Egypt. He is not a bad person he is the most honest person i have ever met. Anyhow this is our story. myself i still own a business here and working. We have discuss the issue. I have known him for four years and trusted him. He works and does not rely on his family. He want me to go and live with him in Egypt get married there and go from there. I may like it there and stay for good and just visit my daughter and grandchild once a year in US. This is the only solution i can think of for now.

For people out there that is applying for a visa for their fiancee specially in Egypt as it is a big fraud and younger men older women involved maybe they all can learn from us what we went through. I understand what the Embassy is doing because of fraud in marriage is higher in those country. I know my fiance and he is a good man knowing him for four years i have no qualms about him as a person a very honest good family i have ever meet in my life. No scam or pretense in our part just being older and younger that is all our problem. He said to me he does not want to go to US anymore he just want me to be with him and be together. This is our story and Goodluck to all who is applying for their fiancee in Egypt. A lesson learned. I thank you for the board for making me tell our side of the story and all guidance you all have given to us. It was a long good, sad journey for us. Thank you Again for all your help...

CO said why not marry a younger Egyptian woman instead of an older woman. (He told the CO because he loves his fiancee that is why he does not care for a younger woman. Ask him about what kind of conversation we have when we are together (He answered that we talk about general life, politics, science about life everything and of course saying he miss me being far away from him). Those are the questions ask from the CO

[Dahlia 1]

Dahlia,

I posted on your earlier part one. I want you to not panic and think very long and hard on what you should do before you rush into anything. I tried to stay with my husband until the visa process was finished, but it was very very hard even though he loves me and I love him so much. At the time, he really just wanted me to stay with him in Turkey. He could have cared less about coming to America. But now he realizes that living in Turkey with him would not make me happy because I am so independent. I suggested earlier that you marry him and live in a third country until you think it is safe to apply for CR1. Safe meaning that you think you have enough evidence of true relationship that you won't get denied again. It is possible you could move to the Dominican Republic or somewhere else that is closer to the United States so you can visit your family more often. I own my home and I am thinking of renting it instead of selling it. I am also thinking of having him move before me and get set up there so at least one of us has a job before we move there together. There are so many options, but you need to research the options and think carefully before you jump.

I truly know exactly how you feel. Best of luck to you.

Thank you so much for the guidance. More luck for all of us in this same situation...

[Dumb/Dumber 61]

Dahlia,

I posted on your earlier part one. I want you to not panic and think very long and hard on what you should do before you rush into anything. I tried to stay with my husband until the visa process was finished, but it was very very hard even though he loves me and I love him so much. At the time, he really just wanted me to stay with him in Turkey. He could have cared less about coming to America. But now he realizes that living in Turkey with him would not make me happy because I am so independent. I suggested earlier that you marry him and live in a third country until you think it is safe to apply for CR1. Safe meaning that you think you have enough evidence of true relationship that you won't get denied again. It is possible you could move to the Dominican Republic or somewhere else that is closer to the United States so you can visit your family more often. I own my home and I am thinking of renting it instead of selling it. I am also thinking of having him move before me and get set up there so at least one of us has a job before we move there together. There are so many options, but you need to research the options and think carefully before you jump.

I truly know exactly how you feel. Best of luck to you.

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[danik713 21]

Dahlia,

I hope you and your fiance thoroughly think everything through and do what is best for you as a couple, but also as individuals.

If our K-1 visa petition fails, my fiance would never let me come live with him. He would end the relationship rather than have me move there. It is too dangerous, as a white American woman I draw too much negative attention and it would only be a matter of time before something terrible happened. He cannot protect me 24/7 and would not let me live in such fear for my life.

I am happy for others who may have the option to go and be with their love in their home country, so if it is a wise decision (thinking of recent events) I wish you the best. Good luck.

[adriana152115 0]

My friend(us citizen) is 22, and her husband(mexican resident) received his visa in march.

[thelastpetitioner 218]

Haven't you realized that people that keep saying age doesn't matter, are either new members or members from more liberal countries, not only MENA countries but The Caribbean for example, in country such Haiti its highly unusual for a young man to marry an older woman specially if she's past child bearing age. Haven't you wonder why the Consulate told the OP's fiance to marry an Egyptian woman instead.

oh i did notice that,but it just pisses me off to the core when people give wrong information.

[souleymon 27]

My fiancee had an interview today at the US Embassy in Cairo visa denied due to our age difference....Did anybody have the same problems because of age difference they have to deny his visa? They told him to marry a woman in Egypt. Why do they have to question him like this. This is not the interviewer business to ask him just because of our age difference. What is the next step I could do if his visa is denied? He answered everything right, paperwork is all correct but WHY the interviewer do this to him.

Dont give up hope.Try to call the embassy and seeks more reasons.though you aint telling us the age Margin.is it up to 20yrs.Stay optimistic and you will smile at the long run

[Samoray 165]

I have posted another post about the denial and the interview. We have discussed again today what we are going to do next and the only solution for us is to live in Egypt and i may like it there and stay for awhile and go from there. I am still working and i may just retire and quit my own business here. Our age difference did came up alot in his interview. He felt so intimidated and i told him that is their job to make sure that our relationship is not fraud. He did not like where he have to stand outside the room standing in a glass window with a microphone while the CO was sitting in his desk talking to him via microphone with an interpreter which he did not ask for an interpreter. He speak fluent English as a teacher. He teaches a computer class. I explain to him due to the situation in your country they do the interview for security reason. I have to calm him down and everything should be alright for us. Our next step now is for me to move to Egypt and he ask me if it is ok if I can move there I said there is no problem. I may open a business there doing hair as this is what I do. So i can get me a job very easily. Thank you for all your help it was a nice long informative journey for us.

You will get past this situation but when you do open your own shop in Egypt, you have to give us all free haircuts as a promotion for your new business

[Dahlia 1]

You will get past this situation but when you do open your own shop in Egypt, you have to give us all free haircuts as a promotion for your new business

You know that is not a bad idea.

[Otto 83]

**Moderator Note (post>#61 are merged from separate/related topic).

[thelastpetitioner 218]

CO said why not marry a younger Egyptian woman instead of an older woman. (He told the CO because he loves his fiancee that is why he does not care for a younger woman. Ask him about what kind of conversation we have when we are together (He answered that we talk about general life, politics, science about life everything and of course saying he miss me being far away from him). Those are the questions ask from the CO

this shows their mentality completely and perfectly,you have to fight that.

easiest way,get married and stay married a couple of years.i really hope that he understands what youre going through for him and is worth it.good luck