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Hi

Could we have both nationalty?

I read somewhere that if I want to be americain i must abandon my french nationality but at the same time I read that it's worthless to abandon the french nationality for the americain governement because the french governement would consider me as french citizen ad vitam eternam.

Do you have any information about it ?

I'd like to have the americain nationality only if I can keep my fench one.

Thank you.

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I can't venture an opinion about French policy at all, but there are lots of Americans that hold other passports. When you are in America, the government won't recognize your French citizenship I think. Maybe the same in France.

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I can't venture an opinion about French policy at all, but there are lots of Americans that hold other passports. When you are in America, the government won't recognize your French citizenship I think. Maybe the same in France.

You can have both ..

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Sabrina c'est quoi l'Advance parole? C'est l'autorisation de voyager?

Advance Parole is a temporary travel permission for when your AOS is pending. So you enter on a K-1 visa, which is a one-time use visa. You marry within the 90 days, and send out your AOS as soon as you can. You cannot leave the country until you temporary travel permission is approved, called Advance Parole, or you will automatically abandon your AOS application and need a new visa to enter the US. It usually takes 3 months or less from when you send in your AOS application. Once you get your Greencard, you can travel and work freely - as the Greencard gives travel and work permission by itself. Bonne chance.

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AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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I can't venture an opinion about French policy at all, but there are lots of Americans that hold other passports. When you are in America, the government won't recognize your French citizenship I think. Maybe the same in France.

This reply is correct. The US government does recognize dual citizenship, but they don't endorse it as a matter of policy. If you are a US Citizen, you can still be a citizen of another country at the same time. The US won't make you renounce the other citizenship, but they don't officially recognize it. Either you are an American citizen or you are not. As for whatever other passport you hold, that's your business.

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This reply is correct. The US government does not recognize dual citizenship. If you are a US Citizen, you can still be a citizen of another country at the same time. The US won't make you renounce the other citizenship, but they don't officially recognize it. Either you are an American citizen or you are not. As for whatever other passport you hold, that's your business.

Yes, sorry France and USA won't recognize the double nationality but they accept it. You can hold both passports. With your American passport you will be solely American in the eyes of the US government, and vice-versa in France.

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Yes, sorry France and USA won't recognize the double nationality but they accept it. You can hold both passports. With your American passport you will be solely American in the eyes of the US government, and vice-versa in France.

It depends on your exact meaning of the word "recognize". The US government recognizes that it exists, but you are correct that they will only know you as an American citizen or not.

While recognizing the existence of dual citizenship and permitting Americans to have other citizenships, the U.S. Government does not endorse dual citizenship as a matter of policy because of the problems that it may cause.

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Anna,

once you have reached the stage where you become a US citizen, you'll have to renounce your loyalty to France. At this point in time, nobody requires you to renounce your French citizenship and nobody follows up on it. For Uncle Sam, you are then an American henceforward, nothing else.

On the same token, In France, you'll still be a French citizen, and in all other countries, you can be what you want to be.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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My dad, brother, and I all have US/french dual citizenship. It is definitely allowed, but unless things have changed recently don't expect any help from the french consulates here if you need to renew your passport, register your kids as french citizens, etc. I've simply let my french passport expire because they are a pain to deal with (at least in Chicago & DC)

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The United states does not recognize dual nationality.... if you apply to be a us citizen you have to reject the french nationality. then once completed depending on Frances laws re apply for you french nationality.. once approved at that point France would recognize you as dual the only way the us will see you as a dual citizen now is if your a child.

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The United states does not recognize dual nationality.... if you apply to be a us citizen you have to reject the french nationality. then once completed depending on Frances laws re apply for you french nationality.. once approved at that point France would recognize you as dual the only way the us will see you as a dual citizen now is if your a child.

This is incorrect.

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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I meant, if both governement don't consider my citezenship form each other it's ok if it's allowed. I 'd like to have the US nationality only if I don't have to renouced to my french nationality.

Can I have a 10 years green card and stay in the us without the americain nationality?

What if I don't apply for the naturalization ?

My passeport expires in 2013 and I should get my visa by the end of the summer. Do you recommand me to renew my passport before I leave? Will it be a probleme if i gave a old passport to the embassy and the new one the POE?

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Can I have a 10 years green card and stay in the us without the americain nationality?

What if I don't apply for the naturalization ?

As I have stated already, you do not have to renounce your French nationality or citizenship, but you have to renounce your loyalty to France.

If you have a problem doing that, you can stay a lawful permanent resident for the rest of your life, not a problem. Most long time residents desire to become US citizens, in order to escape the fangs of the USCIS for once and for all. They want to be able to travel and stay out of the country when they want and for as long as they want. They want to be able to vote and they want to become part of the country they live in.

That said, there are many residents who don't become US citizens, ever, many of those who would indeed lose their old citizenship when becoming US citizens, among them Norway, Denmark, Russia, China, and India.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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