no ssn = no joint evidence

[I'm Gone 60]

you don't need to have EAD in order to apply for a SSN.

Exactly how does one get a SSN without EAD then?

Note that despite what Holly's timeline says, she doesn't have a K3 visa IIRC.

With K-3 status you either need the EAD card or wait until the AOS is approved and you are issued an I-551 stamp or card.

If she checked off on the DS-230 and was issued an immigrant visa, it's possible she could have an SSN but never received the card. If she does have an inmmigrant visa, not a K-3 she needs to go into an SSA office.

Be sure to take proof of age, identity, lawful alien status and work authorization when going into a Social Security office to inquiry about the status of your SSN or to submit an application.

Applicants need to provide at least two documents as evidence to establish age, identity and work authorization. Proof of age is not required when applying for a replacement SSN card.

If a foreign-born person has the foreign birth certificate (BC) in his/her possession or can easily obtain a copy, he or she must submit it as proof of age. When a person is foreign-born, a BC may not exist, may not have been recorded shortly after birth, or the probative value of the document may not be high. In these situations, SSA can accept alternative evidence of age in order of probative value. The alternative evidence of age may be less than a year old, e.g., a DHS document or passport.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that

establishes age on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203110

The documents acceptable as evidence of identity are now based on three factors: (1) the applicant’s age, (2) the applicant’s citizenship/alien status, and (3) the relative probative value of documents.

You can find detailed information regarding evidence that

establishes identity on the SSA Website at:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200

Employment Authorization Documents:

-- I-688B

-- I-766

-- I-551 card

-- Machine Readable Immigrant Visa (MRIV) with temporary I-551 language

Note: The MRIV shows the alien's identification number (“A” number) as the “Registration Number” in the upper right-hand corner of the MRIV.

The MRIV in an unexpired foreign passport that shows the statement “UPON ENDORSEMENT SERVES AS TEMPORARY I-551 EVIDENCING PERMANENT RESIDENCE FOR 1 YEAR and is endorsed with an admission stamp is the same as a valid Temporary I-551 stamp and is valid for one year from the date of endorsement by the admission stamp.

Example:

If the admission stamp shows a date of entry into the U.S. as January 4, 2004, the expiration of the temporary I-551 status will be January 3, 2005. The expiration date on the MRIV should not be used to determine when the temporary I-551 status expires. The expiration date on the MRIV only shows how long the MRIV is valid not how long the alien's temporary I-551 status is valid.

RM 00203.410 Evidence of Alien Status for an SSN Card for an Alien Lawfully Admitted for Permanent Residence:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203410

[Dr_LHA 3]

I don't understand why banks have no problem to open accounts for wet backs...

Racist comments are unnecessary in this thread thanks.

... or you get a Social Security card with the info that you are not authorized to accept employment. And then you file for a new one once you have your EAD.

So which sense makes the green card which states that you are not allowed to work?

Such a thing exists?

If she checked off on the DS-230 and was issued an immigrant visa, it's possible she could have an SSN but never received the card. If she does have an inmmigrant visa, not a K-3 she needs to go into an SSA office.

Holly remind us what you have, but I was under the impression you entered on a tourist visa. Do I remember incorrectly?

[I'm Gone 60]

And also, you don't need to have EAD in order to apply for a SSN.

Only if your have status like H-1B that authorizes you to work with just the I-94 or you are a permanant resident.

[stinger157 0]

I don't understand why banks have no problem to open accounts for wet backs...

Racist comments are unnecessary in this thread thanks.

... or you get a Social Security card with the info that you are not authorized to accept employment. And then you file for a new one once you have your EAD.

So which sense makes the green card which states that you are not allowed to work?

Such a thing exists?

If she checked off on the DS-230 and was issued an immigrant visa, it's possible she could have an SSN but never received the card. If she does have an inmmigrant visa, not a K-3 she needs to go into an SSA office.

Holly remind us what you have, but I was under the impression you entered on a tourist visa. Do I remember incorrectly?

First of all, dear dr_lha, I don't see a racist comment. What I am talking about is the truth and yes, such a thing exists.

[I'm Gone 60]

... or you get a Social Security card with the info that you are not authorized to accept employment. And then you file for a new one once you have your EAD.

That ain't happening.

If not eligible to be assigned a Social Security number (SSN), your local Social Security office can provide written notice using Form SSA-L676 to explain that an SSN cannot be assigned or a card issued due to the applicant not having provided authorization to work in the United States or evidence of a valid nonwork reason for needing an SSN.

The following are valid nonwork reasons:

-- Receive Social Security benefits

-- Receive Medicaid

-- Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)

-- Food Stamps

-- State/Local General Assistance Benefits

RM 00203.510 Alien without Work Authorization - Nonwork Need for an SSN:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203510

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500

The address and directions to the nearest Social Security office can be obtained from our Social Security Office Locator, which is available on our Website at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

[stinger157 0]

... or you get a Social Security card with the info that you are not authorized to accept employment. And then you file for a new one once you have your EAD.

That ain't happening.

If not eligible to be assigned a Social Security number (SSN), your local Social Security office can provide written notice using Form SSA-L676 to explain that an SSN cannot be assigned or a card issued due to the applicant not having provided authorization to work in the United States or evidence of a valid nonwork reason for needing an SSN.

The following are valid nonwork reasons:

-- Receive Social Security benefits

-- Receive Medicaid

-- Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF)

-- Food Stamps

-- State/Local General Assistance Benefits

RM 00203.510 Alien without Work Authorization - Nonwork Need for an SSN:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203510

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500

The address and directions to the nearest Social Security office can be obtained from our Social Security Office Locator, which is available on our Website at:

http://www.ssa.gov/locator

Dear mdyoung, did you have a look at the application form for a SSN? You can be eligible to get a SSC but at the same time it can be that you are not eligible to accept employment. Before you post something you should read what you are posting.

Edited September 8, 2006 by stinger157

[Dr_LHA 3]

First of all, dear dr_lha, I don't see a racist comment.

"Wet back" is a derogatory term for a Mexican, which is used as a racist slur whether the person its being aimed at is legal or not. You might not think its racist, but that is just because you are ignorant of the offense it causes.

What I am talking about is the truth and yes, such a thing exists.

Coo... never heard of it. Link?

[HollyV 0]

I don't understand why banks have no problem to open accounts for wet backs...

Racist comments are unnecessary in this thread thanks.

... or you get a Social Security card with the info that you are not authorized to accept employment. And then you file for a new one once you have your EAD.

So which sense makes the green card which states that you are not allowed to work?

Such a thing exists?

If she checked off on the DS-230 and was issued an immigrant visa, it's possible she could have an SSN but never received the card. If she does have an inmmigrant visa, not a K-3 she needs to go into an SSA office.

Holly remind us what you have, but I was under the impression you entered on a tourist visa. Do I remember incorrectly?

I didn't need a visa to enter the US. The class listed on my passport is "n/c". Which i later found out to mean, "not controlled."

First of all, dear dr_lha, I don't see a racist comment.

"Wet back" is a derogatory term for a Mexican, which is used as a racist slur whether the person its being aimed at is legal or not. You might not think its racist, but that is just because you are ignorant of the offense it causes.

What I am talking about is the truth and yes, such a thing exists.

Coo... never heard of it. Link?

i just visited the ssa website. And yes, such a thing exists. Just wondering if it would be worthwhile at all.....

http://www.ssa.gov/ssnumber/cards.htm

[Dr_LHA 3]

I didn't need a visa to enter the US. The class listed on my passport is "n/c". Which i later found out to mean, "not controlled."

That's right! You entered illegally!

[stinger157 0]

First of all, dear dr_lha, I don't see a racist comment.

"Wet back" is a derogatory term for a Mexican, which is used as a racist slur whether the person its being aimed at is legal or not. You might not think its racist, but that is just because you are ignorant of the offense it causes.

What I am talking about is the truth and yes, such a thing exists.

Coo... never heard of it. Link?

Maybe it is like that where you live. Where I live it is a name for illegal mexicans. Mexicans with a right to be here have no reason to swim through the Rio Grande.

And nice to tell me that I am ignorant without that you even know me. Or is it more because of my origin. But that would make you a racist, wouldn't it? Huh?

The links were posted by another member.

[Dr_LHA 3]

Maybe it is like that where you live. Where I live it is a name for illegal mexicans. Mexicans with a right to be here have no reason to swim through the Rio Grande.

And nice to tell me that I am ignorant without that you even know me. Or is it more because of my origin. But that would make you a racist, wouldn't it? Huh?

I lived in Southern California for 5 years in Mexican neighbourhoods, and calling people wet backs would get the ####### beaten out of you. To my mexican friends this was their equivalent of the "N-word".

Nice to turn it around on me BTW. You make a racist comment and suddently I'm the racist. I have no idea what your origin is mate.

[HollyV 0]

I didn't need a visa to enter the US. The class listed on my passport is "n/c". Which i later found out to mean, "not controlled."

That's right! You entered illegally!

illegally? Yea, you're gunna have to explain that to me. Everytime i've visited the US (same goes for both my parents and my brother) our passports have been stamped like this. I've been to the US before i even knew my now husband existed and it was stamped the same way. My parents flew to Florida for vacation one year, same thing. So we're all illegals?? please explain..........

[Dr_LHA 3]

Holly, no matter what they stamped in your passport, you entered the USA with immigration intent, without the necessary visa. You got away with it for now, but what you did was not legal and you will have to face up to that eventually. Its probably best to figure this out before you have your interview.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

Holly did you tell the CBP when you last entered the US after your wedding reception in canada that you were moving to the US or did they just assume it was for a visit...

Kezzie

[stinger157 0]

Maybe it is like that where you live. Where I live it is a name for illegal mexicans. Mexicans with a right to be here have no reason to swim through the Rio Grande.

And nice to tell me that I am ignorant without that you even know me. Or is it more because of my origin. But that would make you a racist, wouldn't it? Huh?

I lived in Southern California for 5 years in Mexican neighbourhoods, and calling people wet backs would get the ####### beaten out of you. To my mexican friends this was their equivalent of the "N-word".

Nice to turn it around on me BTW. You make a racist comment and suddently I'm the racist. I have no idea what your origin is mate.

Nice try, dr_lha, but no success. My info is accessible and out of my info you can see where I am from. You are the only one who gets upset about my comment. And you are the only one who didn't get the hint with the foreign citizens being here legal after talking about wetbacks. Also mexicans can be here legally.

So it is really you who is the racist. First for accusing me of something I didn't do, and basically accusing me because of my national origin. Shame on you.