Big Oil Claims About Tax Subsidies Don't Hold Water

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

There is.

Show me. If you can show me that it can be done cutting spending alone, we can then talk about whether or not what you come up with a realistic proposition.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Show me. If you can show me that it can be done cutting spending alone, we can then talk about whether or not what you come up with a realistic proposition.

as I said, no one is willing to do what needs to be done.

eliminate medicare and Social Security 100% - cut defense spending in half. There's $1.8 trillion for you right there.

Not willing to do that? Most people aren't.

Fine. eliminate discretionary spending for years and cut defense spending in half. There's $900+ billion for you.

There are ways, just no one is willing to do what needs to be done to fix the budget.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

as I said, no one is willing to do what needs to be done.

eliminate medicare and Social Security 100% - cut defense spending in half. There's $1.8 trillion for you right there.

Not willing to do that? Most people aren't.

Fine. eliminate discretionary spending for years and cut defense spending in half. There's $900+ billion for you.

There are ways, just no one is willing to do what needs to be done to fix the budget.

Okay, so you have no practical way of actually balancing the budget. Thanks for confirming.

I did it in a way that's not at all unreasonable. 66% cuts and 34% tax increases. Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid all remain although the eligibility age would go up to 68. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are rolled back significantly. Defense spending sees other cuts as well - I do believe that we have a nuclear arsenal that doesn't need to be beefed up. And some more minor things. I think that can be done.

[Zero Sum 305]

There is. Just no one is willing to do what needs to be done.

Die?

[rika60607 215]

How do you figure? If you eliminate these two programs, not only the payouts will be eliminated, but pay-ins too!

eliminate medicare and Social Security 100%