Over staying and AOS

[justaq 0]

hey everyone,

im so happy to find this forum, me and my boyfriend have so many questions and we didnt know who to address them to..

anywho, im an american citizen, living in florida.

more than 6 months ago i was in israel, and i met an awesome guy, and we fell in love, we're together till this day.

he visited me and my family two months ago, and im going to visit him in about a month from now.

we are in constant touch, we're on the phone all the time, and texting too, we basically plan our lives to be together.

our problem is that im a student, and my parents are against us getting married now - not because of him, but because of me being a student. im graduating in about two years, and i fear of being apart for so long. the flights are extremly expansive and we cant afford traveling all the time..

he has a tourist visa valid until 2020 or so.

we really want to be with each other, and he really want to support me while im in school, so ill have less trouble over my head.

my question goes like this:

i want him to come in the end of september, and stay here as much as possible. even tho he wants to support me financly, i have money, it is not a problem for me, but i really want him to be with me, so we could live our life like a normal couple..

we thought about the option of him overstaying and then marry me and go thru the AOS.

we might be young, but were serious about it. his family know me and mine know him, and even love him and vice vera.

we got tattoos (instead of rings), that was our way to commit to each other in our own way..

is there a better way than overstaying? please tell me there is cause the last thing i wanna see is him going to jail/deported away from me etc.

we even thought about applying for a working visa (costs around 5000 Gs from what i heard) but thats a lot of money, especially when youre not sure you gonna get it..

PLEASE HELP US

thank you SO MUCH

A

[canadian_wife 1,826]

Better way than overstaying? YES - NOT OVERSTAYING

Overstay is a bad bad idea that can complicate your futures together. Don't do it.

What about a student visa?

He can be admitted for up to 6 months at a given time, but during that time he cannot work so his idea of supporting you while he is here isn't plausible

If you are that serious, why not go for a K-1 visa?

Good luck

[justaq 0]

we know this is a bad idea - and this is why im here asking this..

like i said - my parents wont let us married, and thatll be when ill graduate- in two years..

K-1 visa is for 90 days only

Edited May 10, 2011 by justaq

[MarocAEHabiby 2]

we know this is a bad idea - and this is why im here asking this..

like i said - my parents wont let us married, and thatll be when ill graduate- in two years..

K-1 visa is for 90 days only

As someone who got married freshman year of college, I would have loved for someone to advise me to wait. Although I still would have married my husband three years later (he's my best friend and so much more), I think it's better if you can spend the next two years really getting to know each other. If your school will allow you to study abroad for a semester in Israel take advantage of that, and consider in your last semester of college seek the K-1 visa. If you really are in a rush try to take accelerated courses so that you may finish earlier, but I agree that you should finish school first. It will afford you a wealth of opportunities which will enrich both of your lives greatly and improve your future together.

[justaq 0]

i already had a semester there.. thats how we met..

so, what youre saying is that its impossible..

Edited May 10, 2011 by justaq

[canadian_wife 1,826]

It is just that there is no boyfriend visas and no one here is going to tell you that it is ok to jeopardize your futures and overstay

Have you thought of a student visa for your boyfriend? That way he can come to the US, study (work even on campus) and you guys can have the relationship you are looking for)

Other than that, you can just get to know each other via skype, e-mail, text, etc and when you are ready, get engaged and marry

Good luck

[belinda63 3,041]

Look at the negatives to your plan. If he overstays he is in constant fear of being located and deported. He will not be able to obtain a driver's license or work. Where will he live and who will take care of him? If he needs to leave the country he will incur a ban from the US depending on how long he overstays. There really are no positives to your plan.

Others have offered excellent advise.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

While overstaying won't prevent him from AOS'ing in country, the fact remains that it is illegal. The whole time before you AOS he would run the risk of getting caught by immigration police, put in jail, and deported. Then you would have a serious problem on your hands. If you love this guy, why would you jeopardize his status and his future like that? What if, god forbid, you broke up and your whole plan of "erasing" his overstay didn't work out - then he would have a ban on his head and much more. Planning to overstay and then AOS in years really puts you in a bind, and would put a lot of pressure on his relationship. He couldn't work, so you would just be waiting in limbo or years until you marry and AOS. He couldn't leave the country and visit his family. I don't think that's a good way to live - with something over your head the whole time. Furthermore, using a non-immigrant visa with the intent to immigrate is fraud.

If you are wondering if people really get caught, yes, they do. One member here http://www.visajourney.com/forums/user/88136-nina-and-erwin/

had a horrible and sad story - her bf overstayed by a few weeks and got caught, and they had not married yet. He waited 9 weeks in deport jail, and they had to marry in the jail, and right after he got caught she found out she was pregnant and had to have the baby on her own while waiting for him to get back. They will also have to file expensive appeals to overturn the bans for deportation etc. You can read the timeline in the "about me" tab.

If you are 18, then you don't need your parent's permission to marry. Maybe you can talk to them calmly. You said the K-1 only gives 90 days... well yes, you must get married within the 90 days, but then you apply for permanent residency from within the country. What do his parents say? You could look for a student visa, or a sponsored work visa (the company pays for it). Does he work? Is he in school? Good luck.

Edited May 10, 2011 by Harpa Timsah

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

" . . . . our problem is that im a student, and my parents are against us getting married now - not because of him, but because of me being a student. im graduating in about two years, and i fear of being apart for so long. the flights are extremly expansive and we cant afford traveling all the time.."

You are a student in an institute of higher education in the United States of America?

I have no idea what the words "extremly ,expansive, tho, financly, thru, vice vera, mean, but from what I can take from your post is that I have to side with your parents here. You are young and need to focus on what's important first, which is to get an education that will allow you to survive in this world, and once you've done that, have a job--a career even--and have saved enough money to qualify for an Affidavit of Support that Uncle Sam will want from you, and are still really sure that you are ready to start a family, then you can apply for a K-1 visa for your boyfriend.

Take life one step at a time. Three years from now, the world will be different, and perhaps your view on things may be too.

Best of luck to you.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

we know this is a bad idea - and this is why im here asking this..

like i said - my parents wont let us married, and thatll be when ill graduate- in two years..

K-1 visa is for 90 days only

A k1 visa is NOT for 90 days... you misunderstood something. The K1 visa permits entry as a fiance (he can visit in the meantime but it means while he's waiting he can work and save money up) and then you have 90 days to MARRY. Once married then you apply for AOS. He doesn't have to leave after 90 days.

You could file the K1 tomorrow (assuming you have the money). The only problem will be that you need to earn enough money to sponsor him. For a household of two its $18,387.. so if you earn that a year then you're good to go. If you DON'T then you'll need to find someone who earns enough for their household size PLUS your immigrant and get them to co-sponsor.

I assume you're of age so your parents "not allowing" you to marry is neither here nor there except it rules them out as co-sponsors.

[Harsh_77 718]

we know this is a bad idea - and this is why im here asking this..

like i said - my parents wont let us married, and thatll be when ill graduate- in two years..

K-1 visa is for 90 days only

You might not like it, but your parents are right and OVERSTAY is not an option.

[justaq 0]

are you kidding me?

i just said twice that we think its a bad idea too, and this is why im here asking you guys.

plus, i didnt come here to ask you if its too soon to marry at this point of life.

im sure that each and everyone of you, given the same situation, will have the same thought that i have.

when you ppl met your spouse, im sure you never thought youll ever have to be apart for 2 years.

all i was looking for is help, but again, apperantly two people who love eachother cant be together because of stupid paper works, basically taking away the freedom to choose who to live out lives with.

so please, save all the "if i were you" thing. if you were me - you would think or act the same, unless you dont really love your partner, knowingly being away from him for two years (23 months, around 700 days).

[keysjangle 145]

How old are you? What level of school are you in?

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

I'm confused. You asked if there was a better way than overstaying, and we were explaining things - the consequences of overstay, and suggesting student or work visas. You don't want help now? What did you want?

[TBoneTX 45,887]

Having no visible means of financial support is no way to start a relationship. Money problems are one of the chief relationship-killers. The AOS fee (and ROC fee, and citizenship fee) isn't cheap. Children, when they come, are beastly expensive -- and just try working during a difficult pregnancy. Illness, unemployment, and other variables are also factors to consider.

Graduate from college, get meaningful employment, continue the relationship in the meantime, and see how your options expand. As the one personal interjection, I'll say that it sounds incongruous that someone who purports to love someone to the point of wanting to marry him would even dream of jeopardizing his entire life by suggesting a willful overstay. To be frank, that's selfish, and true love is selfless. Please reflect on that.