Hallucinogenic Tea anyone?

[mike&jie 0]

pour me a cup I think i have a better chance of seeing god

Before i recieve a visa, anytime soon

[Dixie_Peach 1]

I can understand herbs for health purposes... but I can't get into the "connecting" with God part. But I am open to listening to explanation.

Thanks!

Lynne

Here's my layperson view of it, which might possibly help explain.

Some spirituality and practices of such are based on changing your consciousness, in effect taking yourself out of your own 'self' for a time. If you know anything about typically Eastern religions and some of the practices there (Buddhism, yoga, meditation in many forms) that is part of it.

So while some spiritual practices use meditation (in a long stretch, prayer could even fall into this category, but that's digressing), others use means such as herbs etc. Many cultures (especially those not Westernized) use nature in ways that seem strange/foreign to those not used to it.

As for why not in New Mexico, well, why not New Mexico? If one believes that we're connected the earth in a spiritual way, using the tools the earth provides to connect to the larger consciousness/spirituality, then it doesn't matter where one practices. And with the recent revival of ancient 'pagan' earth-worshipping type religions, it doesn't surprise me at all that it's there. Neo-pagan practice has been big on the West Coast for a couple of decades now. It had to move elsewhere eventually.

I hope that helps a bit on the concept. If not, well I got to type lots of blather.

Thank you cerisrose

That does explain it a little better. I never thought about it in that sense before... getting outside "myself" to get closer to God.

Even though my Mom was Cherokee Indian, she did not teach us anything about herbs like this. Only for health purposes. That is an interesting concept to use nature and all it provides. Thank you for making that a little more clear!

Blessings,

Lynne

[Satisfaction 1]

I can understand herbs for health purposes... but I can't get into the "connecting" with God part. But I am open to listening to explanation.

Thanks!

Lynne

Here's my layperson view of it, which might possibly help explain.

Some spirituality and practices of such are based on changing your consciousness, in effect taking yourself out of your own 'self' for a time. If you know anything about typically Eastern religions and some of the practices there (Buddhism, yoga, meditation in many forms) that is part of it.

So while some spiritual practices use meditation (in a long stretch, prayer could even fall into this category, but that's digressing), others use means such as herbs etc. Many cultures (especially those not Westernized) use nature in ways that seem strange/foreign to those not used to it.

As for why not in New Mexico, well, why not New Mexico? If one believes that we're connected the earth in a spiritual way, using the tools the earth provides to connect to the larger consciousness/spirituality, then it doesn't matter where one practices. And with the recent revival of ancient 'pagan' earth-worshipping type religions, it doesn't surprise me at all that it's there. Neo-pagan practice has been big on the West Coast for a couple of decades now. It had to move elsewhere eventually.

I hope that helps a bit on the concept. If not, well I got to type lots of blather.

I agree with you. I just wasn't aware similar beliefs and practices also existed in New Mexico - North America.

The government of Guyana allows indigenous tribes to practice their rituals, in an attempt to preserve a cultural heritage old of hundred or perhaps thousand of years. Many indigenous people have however been "Westernized" over time, especially the ones who have settled along the coastline in the East, but much less in restricted areas deep into the forest.

[ceriserose 1]

I can understand herbs for health purposes... but I can't get into the "connecting" with God part. But I am open to listening to explanation.

Thanks!

Lynne

Here's my layperson view of it, which might possibly help explain.

Some spirituality and practices of such are based on changing your consciousness, in effect taking yourself out of your own 'self' for a time. If you know anything about typically Eastern religions and some of the practices there (Buddhism, yoga, meditation in many forms) that is part of it.

So while some spiritual practices use meditation (in a long stretch, prayer could even fall into this category, but that's digressing), others use means such as herbs etc. Many cultures (especially those not Westernized) use nature in ways that seem strange/foreign to those not used to it.

As for why not in New Mexico, well, why not New Mexico? If one believes that we're connected the earth in a spiritual way, using the tools the earth provides to connect to the larger consciousness/spirituality, then it doesn't matter where one practices. And with the recent revival of ancient 'pagan' earth-worshipping type religions, it doesn't surprise me at all that it's there. Neo-pagan practice has been big on the West Coast for a couple of decades now. It had to move elsewhere eventually.

I hope that helps a bit on the concept. If not, well I got to type lots of blather.

Thank you cerisrose

That does explain it a little better. I never thought about it in that sense before... getting outside "myself" to get closer to God.

Even though my Mom was Cherokee Indian, she did not teach us anything about herbs like this. Only for health purposes. That is an interesting concept to use nature and all it provides. Thank you for making that a little more clear!

Blessings,

Lynne

Glad I could provide a bit of a different perspective. I'm by no means an authority on it, but in recent years I've studied a lot of spiritual teachings just for my own knowledge. Been quite interesting for me to find out new things.

Edited February 22, 2006 by ceriserose

[almaty 19]

I can understand herbs for health purposes... but I can't get into the "connecting" with God part. But I am open to listening to explanation.

Thanks!

Lynne

Here's my layperson view of it, which might possibly help explain.

Some spirituality and practices of such are based on changing your consciousness, in effect taking yourself out of your own 'self' for a time. If you know anything about typically Eastern religions and some of the practices there (Buddhism, yoga, meditation in many forms) that is part of it.

So while some spiritual practices use meditation (in a long stretch, prayer could even fall into this category, but that's digressing), others use means such as herbs etc. Many cultures (especially those not Westernized) use nature in ways that seem strange/foreign to those not used to it.

As for why not in New Mexico, well, why not New Mexico? If one believes that we're connected the earth in a spiritual way, using the tools the earth provides to connect to the larger consciousness/spirituality, then it doesn't matter where one practices. And with the recent revival of ancient 'pagan' earth-worshipping type religions, it doesn't surprise me at all that it's there. Neo-pagan practice has been big on the West Coast for a couple of decades now. It had to move elsewhere eventually.

I hope that helps a bit on the concept. If not, well I got to type lots of blather.

Thank you cerisrose

That does explain it a little better. I never thought about it in that sense before... getting outside "myself" to get closer to God.

Even though my Mom was Cherokee Indian, she did not teach us anything about herbs like this. Only for health purposes. That is an interesting concept to use nature and all it provides. Thank you for making that a little more clear!

Blessings,

Lynne

Lynee, the tribes of Oklahoma, where one branch of the cherokee nation lives, along with north carolina..the oklahoma cherokees probably ahve members in this church...it was invented by Quannah Parker, the war leader of the comaanches, when the tribe was placed on the reservation in okla...it was a way for the indian people to seek God without resorting to the traditional vision quest,..which was hard to do on the reservation...the religion is a mixture of Chrisitanity and native american beliefs....it was spread to new mexico and arizona..navajos being the only tribe in these states that have a large # of memebers and recognized by the USA...very interesting practice and unbelieveable experience./...