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For anyone who has any illusions about who or what Hamas is and stands for ....

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/u-s-slams-outrageous-hamas-condemnation-of-bin-laden-killing-1.359698

U.S. slams 'outrageous' Hamas condemnation of bin Laden killing

Hamas leader says bin Laden killing was a 'continuation of the American policy based on oppression and the shedding of Muslim and Arab blood'

By Natasha Mozgovaya

U.S. State Department Deputy Spokesman Mark Toner slammed comments on Monday made by a Hamas leader who criticized the U.S. for killing 'holy warrior' Osama bin Laden.

Ismael Haniyeh, head of the Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip, said in response to the U.S. operation against bin Laden "we regard this as a continuation of the American policy based on oppression and the shedding of Muslim and Arab blood."

Toner said Haniyeh's comments were "outrageous."

"It goes without saying bin Laden was a murderer and a terrorist. He ordered the killings of thousands of innocent men, women and children, and many of whom were Muslim," Toner said.

Though he noted doctrinal differences between bin Laden's al-Qaida and Hamas, Haniyeh said: "We condemn the assassination and the killing of an Arab holy warrior. We ask God to offer him mercy with the true believers and the martyrs."

Toner said of bin Laden that "did not die a martyr. He died hiding in a mansion or a compound far away from the violence that was carried out in his name. And his defeat is a victory for all human beings seeking to live in peace, security and dignity."

Toner also talked about the planned Hamas-Fatah reconciliation deal which is set to be signed in Cairo on Wednesday.

Representatives from Hamas and Fatah announced their intention to reconcile last week, after a four-year-long bitter and at times violent rift, which saw Hamas administering the Gaza Strip and the West Bank under the control of the Fatah dominated Palestinian Authority.

"Our long-stated policy on this is that if Hamas wants to play a political role or a role in the political process, then it needs to abide by the Quartet principles," Toner said. "It needs to accept those principles, which are renouncing violence and terrorism, recognizing Israel's right to exist and abiding by previous diplomatic agreements."

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While I've always been supportive of the rights of the Palestinian people, Hamas' comment regarding Bin Laden's assassination is really disturbing and not helpful in any way to create peace in the Middle East.

I understand why the Obama Administration after long deliberation decided to throw him overboard: they wanted to (1) show some respect to the Muslim world and (2) prevent Bin Laden's final resting place to become a Mecca-like tourist attraction. But . . . I wish they had brought him to the US, put him in the refrigerator, and allowed any and all journalists to take photos and publish them worldwide. Respect for religion is one thing, but when it comes to one of the worst terrorists on this planet, it should not be paramount in the decision-making process.

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While I've always been supportive of the rights of the Palestinian people, Hamas' comment regarding Bin Laden's assassination is really disturbing and not helpful in any way to create peace in the Middle East.

I understand why the Obama Administration after long deliberation decided to throw him overboard: they wanted to (1) show some respect to the Muslim world and (2) prevent Bin Laden's final resting place to become a Mecca-like tourist attraction. But . . . I wish they had brought him to the US, put him in the refrigerator, and allowed any and all journalists to take photos and publish them worldwide. Respect for religion is one thing, but when it comes to one of the worst terrorists on this planet, it should not be paramount in the decision-making process.

Right, Bin Laden doesn't represent Muslims, but i know he was made by the US and also finished by the US.

Hamas is a terrorist group alright but they are only terrorizing Israel, but on the other hand Bin Laden has killed a lot of people Muslims, Jews and Christians.

I think Bin Laden will stay an Icon for his followers for a long time even if he has no grave.

I think also the US should just get out of Iraq and Afghanistan and get all these hundreds of thousands of troops to secure the shores and the US soil and save the billions of dollars and stop the blood shed in the middle east.

Also these militiants that the Nato is helping in Libya are going to turn against the US and the Nato sooner or later. so there ya go another Afghanistan is happening in Libya but this time, it's Ghaddafi not the Russians.

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Right, Bin Laden doesn't represent Muslims, but i know he was made by the US and also finished by the US.

Hamas is a terrorist group alright but they are only terrorizing Israel, but on the other hand Bin Laden has killed a lot of people Muslims, Jews and Christians.

I think Bin Laden will stay an Icon for his followers for a long time even if he has no grave.

I think also the US should just get out of Iraq and Afghanistan and get all these hundreds of thousands of troops to secure the shores and the US soil and save the billions of dollars and stop the blood shed in the middle east.

Also these militiants that the Nato is helping in Libya are going to turn against the US and the Nato sooner or later. so there ya go another Afghanistan is happening in Libya but this time, it's Ghaddafi not the Russians.

I'd say al qaeda, hamas, hezbollah etc. are good at killing everyone, no matter what their religion is.

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Also these militiants that the Nato is helping in Libya are going to turn against the US and the Nato sooner or later.

And then they only need to look to Saddam and Osama to understand where they're headed. The support the NATO provides in Libya is to help the people of Libya get out from under their dictator's rule and take their destiny into their own hands. If they choose to bite the hand that fed them, they'll find that that hand can not only feed but also seriously bitchslap. Are you suggesting that the Libyan people are incapable and unwilling to live in peace with the rest of the world? They're all thugs? Is that the essence of your statement?

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And then they only need to look to Saddam and Osama to understand where they're headed. The support the NATO provides in Libya is to help the people of Libya get out from under their dictator's rule and take their destiny into their own hands. If they choose to bite the hand that fed them, they'll find that that hand can not only feed but also seriously bitchslap. Are you suggesting that the Libyan people are incapable and unwilling to live in peace with the rest of the world? They're all thugs? Is that the essence of your statement?

My statement means the US should just mind it's own business and stop intervening in everybody's business, cause that will make more people hate it when the fight is not it's fight

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My statement means the US should just mind it's own business and stop intervening in everybody's business, cause that will make more people hate it when the fight is not it's fight

So you don't think we should have killed UBL. Gotcha.

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So you don't think we should have killed UBL. Gotcha.

I would rather him be alive and live in an 8x10 concrete cell for 23 hours a day....Then maybe 6 or 7 years out, wake him up and say it is time to play hang man.

I wish Obama would have said 'bring him to me alive'

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My statement means the US should just mind it's own business and stop intervening in everybody's business, cause that will make more people hate it when the fight is not it's fight

It's not how the world operates. Countries have interests beyond their borders. Should we and our European ally nations have just sat there and watch people get slaughtered in former Yugoslavia? Hey, ain't our damn business. Have at it!

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The support the NATO provides in Libya is to help the people of Libya get out from under their dictator's rule and take their destiny into their own hands

The US supports dictators too, Sadam, Hosni Mubarak, The Saudi Arabia king, even the Yemini President, etc

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To me, the outrage about Osama's death, method of burial, and the situation in general is contradictory to the message of Islam as a religion of peace. Imagine if a Christian mass murderer was hunted down and killed while resisting capture. Would anybody have anything to say about whether or not they gave him last rights? Every normal Christian would realize that one's eternal fate has much more to do with whether or not you were a mass murderer and much less to do with what they did to your body.

Everyone that gets his or her panties in a bunch about how they buried him or whether or not they release pictures of his exploded head is implying that the mass murder of innocent people, the terrorizing of nations, and the oppression of those around him are minor crimes that will be forgiven by Allah. It's just important that he get a proper burial. A religion of peace would say that it's water over the dam how he gets buried because he's going to hell anyways for the slaughter of innocents that he perpetrated.

 

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