Should i wait or get marry instead.

[maktub 0]

Hi everyone, i hope someone can give me good advace on this. My fiance was denied april 11,2011 in casablanca on section 221g,the letter just says that our petition will be returned to USCIS but we dont know the reason for his denied, I sent a email to my congressman about 2 weeks ago and asked to help me to find out why my fiance was denied and try to have my petition review in casablanca before it returned to USCIS.

Yesterday i received a letter from my caseworker saying "I have sent an email inquiry to the conculate in casablanca in an effort to assist you", but also two days ago i spoke with a lawyer and said that we should get marry and apply for I130 instead of waste my time waiting for uscis reviewed our case because this is my second I129 petition, the first one was for my ex husband back in 2003 but after the i129 approval we didt continue with the petition and one year later it was withdrawn by the INS becuase did't hear from us anymore , the lawyer said that it could be the reason for his denied so his advice is to go back to morocco and marry my fiance. Now that the congress is involved, should i wait to see what gonna happen with my actual k1 petition or just move on and marry. Thanks in advance

[Inky 1,110]

If you dont find out why they denied your K-1. They will likely deny the CR-1 for the same reason.

Find out what was the reason for denying and then move ahead from there.

[GeoffinVA 2]

Sometimes you can figure out what happened simply by asking yourself the right questions. First, is there anything unusual about your relationship i.e. large age difference or different religions? Consular Officers sometimes take into consideration your fiance's culture, and whether or not your marriage would fit the norm. Is he a Moslem? If he is and you are not, have you agreed to convert? If not, that may be the problem. Does his family approve? In most Arab cultures, the husband's family expects the wife to bear children so a young man marrying a woman out of childbearing years would send up a red flag. I am not saying any of this applies to you; but these are some of the red flags Consular Officers look for. I agree with the other poster. Getting married now is kicking the can down the road.

[adams.michelle 5]

I would suggest finding out why you where denied. We were approved and we have a 14 year age difference, he is Muslim and I am not, nor do I plan to convert., so I do not think that those are reasons for denial. We did have one years worth of skype conversations they took and reviewed. We talked every day usually twice a day and in our dialogue it was obvious we had a committed authentic relationship. We did not alter or just give them part of our conversations so they were able to see our disagreements, our conversations about religion, and everything else couples talk about.....: ) Having proof of an authentic relationship is the key I think. Good luck to you!

[Tahlisha 28]

Really I think it's just luck of the draw....Same thing happen to us.... My congress man was no help.... We only have a 6 year age difference ( I am older) we are both muslim.... He has a sister and a brother who went through the same process, their petitions were filed within weeks of one another neither of their spouses are muslim (sisters husband converted only to marry her doesn't practice at all) and wildest part of it all is that their spouses were once married to each other....some say this may be why we were denied.... We comunicated longer than they did (his siter only communicated with her husband for about 2 months before he filed his k-1) It could be because I'm black.... Who the heck knows..... We decided to file for the CR-1 rather than try for the k-1 again.... Insha'allah with mor evidence under our belts and my 3 visits totalling 5 months in less than 2 years will help us out this time around...

I personally think you should marry in Morocco... It was what I wanted to do in the first place but he wanted to follow the advice of his brother and sister....

[Teffah 5]

You definetly need to know why you were denied... and work from there. Getting married in Morocco is not a guarantee to an approval, it really it just a matter of what you want.

[maktub 0]

Really I think it's just luck of the draw....Same thing happen to us.... My congress man was no help.... We only have a 6 year age difference ( I am older) we are both muslim.... He has a sister and a brother who went through the same process, their petitions were filed within weeks of one another neither of their spouses are muslim (sisters husband converted only to marry her doesn't practice at all) and wildest part of it all is that their spouses were once married to each other....some say this may be why we were denied.... We comunicated longer than they did (his siter only communicated with her husband for about 2 months before he filed his k-1) It could be because I'm black.... Who the heck knows..... We decided to file for the CR-1 rather than try for the k-1 again.... Insha'allah with mor evidence under our belts and my 3 visits totalling 5 months in less than 2 years will help us out this time around...

I personally think you should marry in Morocco... It was what I wanted to do in the first place but he wanted to follow the advice of his brother and sister....

Its truth that i have to stay in morocco at least one month before get all documents ready to get marry? have you had any dificulties with this? what about the documents we should get from us embassy in casa, have you got those already? sorry to ask you many questions but this is frustraring to me.

[maktub 0]

Sometimes you can figure out what happened simply by asking yourself the right questions. First, is there anything unusual about your relationship i.e. large age difference or different religions? Consular Officers sometimes take into consideration your fiance's culture, and whether or not your marriage would fit the norm. Is he a Moslem? If he is and you are not, have you agreed to convert? If not, that may be the problem. Does his family approve? In most Arab cultures, the husband's family expects the wife to bear children so a young man marrying a woman out of childbearing years would send up a red flag. I am not saying any of this applies to you; but these are some of the red flags Consular Officers look for. I agree with the other poster. Getting married now is kicking the can down the road.

The lawyer asked me all those questions in order to get a glue about his denied and we dont really have many red flags, I am 32 and he is 29, Im not muslim yet but i do like Islam and have family member who are muslim here in america, both families approved our relationship actually my father went to morocco last year to me my fiance and his family, i dont have kids, divorced back on 2004. He said that we have a very good chance but getting marry, as fiance K1 is waste of time.

[Tyeger87 10]

the best bet is to not refile right now

find out the exact reasons you were denied and then discuss the next step with your lawyer

religious differences should not be a red flag especially since the husband is Muslim and Muslim men can definitely marry non-muslim women of the book

[gretchen_darren 67]

find another lawyer. You are in between a rock and a hard place. If the k1 visa ends up denied, there will be problems on getting an i-130 approved. You need to know the reason, what caused it, and what additional evidence is needed to re-affirm the petition. you will have 30 to 60 days to answer the letter. The consulate refused for some reason. Something said, done, or in the paperwork they did not like. Also, after the reaffirmation and going back to the consulate they could place the thing in AP. In filing an i-130, you will go through the same service center, the same division in the service center, and through the same consulate office, and possible officer. Getting married places you in a tougher spot then when you are now. The big thing is answering the first i-129 and why it was pulled. the consulate may have seen it, or it was mentioned during the interview. Also, there may have been too much information given during questioning, or not enough information given. Or some questions were just not answered right to the satisfaction of the consulate officer. Generally, denial is a red flag. You need to look at why, also the consular officer may have denied due to potential undertones of dislike for the US or other governments during the interview. 221g the consulate officer has to have no specific evidence, but only request additional evidence on an item. Best of luck on whatever you do....

[maktub 0]

find another lawyer. You are in between a rock and a hard place. If the k1 visa ends up denied, there will be problems on getting an i-130 approved. You need to know the reason, what caused it, and what additional evidence is needed to re-affirm the petition. you will have 30 to 60 days to answer the letter. The consulate refused for some reason. Something said, done, or in the paperwork they did not like. Also, after the reaffirmation and going back to the consulate they could place the thing in AP. In filing an i-130, you will go through the same service center, the same division in the service center, and through the same consulate office, and possible officer. Getting married places you in a tougher spot then when you are now. The big thing is answering the first i-129 and why it was pulled. the consulate may have seen it, or it was mentioned during the interview. Also, there may have been too much information given during questioning, or not enough information given. Or some questions were just not answered right to the satisfaction of the consulate officer. Generally, denial is a red flag. You need to look at why, also the consular officer may have denied due to potential undertones of dislike for the US or other governments during the interview. 221g the consulate officer has to have no specific evidence, but only request additional evidence on an item. Best of luck on whatever you do....

My fiance said the CO commented "i dont think you know your fiance enough", sorry i cant give you visa", my fiance told him that i have been in morocco 4 times that hi broght proof of relationship but the CO didt look at it. Seems like he didt believe in our relation.

[maktub 0]

thanks all for your advices

[gretchen_darren 67]

that comment is hard to overcome. The only way to overcome that one, is to go to the embassy with your fiance. Sending your fiance to the embassy alone without you is a 50/50 chance of approval. (some embassies just straight out deny the visa.) It has been said here many times, many many, many times. ALWAYS PLAN TO GO TO THE EMBASSY WITH YOUR FIANCE. The fiance gets nervous going by themselves. It is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR hurdle. EVERYTHING rests on that interview. It sounds like you not being there, plus the fiance may have missed some important questions, Like name, where you live, family members, when it was filed, There are basic questions the officer looks at in the packet including birthdays. Your fiance may have missed some really key information. I hate to say this, but you may want to look at your relationship. Your fiance may not know you or love you as much as you think they do. the consulate questions are extremely easy. ASK YOUR FIANCE EXACTLY WHAT QUESTIONS WERE ASKED and the ANSWERS GIVEN. Something went very wrong during the interview. The consulate officer heard something which raised a red flag. IT is said say nothing more then what you need to. BUT ALSO Elaborate when necessary. (WHEN,WHERE, WHO, Which DAY, How Long questions only give simple answers.) (HOW, WHY, WHAT questions need elaboration with careful thought plus expression in answering.)

getting married will NOT solve your problem. It WILL make it worse. The consulate officer will want more proof of evidence verified by the USCIS. Get as much as you can, phone calls, chat logs, photos, etc. Then at the next interview PLAN ON BEING THERE. Some countries are hard. But more and more consulates are denying visas when the US Spenser for the fiance is not present. Beat of luck....

[maktub 0]

that comment is hard to overcome. The only way to overcome that one, is to go to the embassy with your fiance. Sending your fiance to the embassy alone without you is a 50/50 chance of approval. (some embassies just straight out deny the visa.) It has been said here many times, many many, many times. ALWAYS PLAN TO GO TO THE EMBASSY WITH YOUR FIANCE. The fiance gets nervous going by themselves. It is a MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR hurdle. EVERYTHING rests on that interview. It sounds like you not being there, plus the fiance may have missed some important questions, Like name, where you live, family members, when it was filed, There are basic questions the officer looks at in the packet including birthdays. Your fiance may have missed some really key information. I hate to say this, but you may want to look at your relationship. Your fiance may not know you or love you as much as you think they do. the consulate questions are extremely easy. ASK YOUR FIANCE EXACTLY WHAT QUESTIONS WERE ASKED and the ANSWERS GIVEN. Something went very wrong during the interview. The consulate officer heard something which raised a red flag. IT is said say nothing more then what you need to. BUT ALSO Elaborate when necessary. (WHEN,WHERE, WHO, Which DAY, How Long questions only give simple answers.) (HOW, WHY, WHAT questions need elaboration with careful thought plus expression in answering.)

getting married will NOT solve your problem. It WILL make it worse. The consulate officer will want more proof of evidence verified by the USCIS. Get as much as you can, phone calls, chat logs, photos, etc. Then at the next interview PLAN ON BEING THERE. Some countries are hard. But more and more consulates are denying visas when the US Spenser for the fiance is not present. Beat of luck....

Well i paid $1000 for my ticket just to be there to support my fiance that day but they didt let me get in with him, i spent half of day out there waiting for nothing, and the CO knew it kuz it was one of the question, ''where is your fiance now?'' i even gave him my passport and my ticket as proof, but he didt have the time to show anything. He did missed up some questions but how should he knows about my half sister's live who live in another country and dont even have contact with me in the last two years, the CO asked for her husband's and child's name lol i dont even know that guy.... im her sister

[Tahlisha 28]

Its truth that i have to stay in morocco at least one month before get all documents ready to get marry? have you had any dificulties with this? what about the documents we should get from us embassy in casa, have you got those already? sorry to ask you many questions but this is frustraring to me.

The 2 documents you get from the consulate were the easy part... LOL We went to the consulate straight from the airport.... Each document cost $50. My stay this time around is going to be 3 months.... Because of how much my husband works it took us some time to get all the documents needed.... But we got all and have submitted them we have been waiting about 3 weeks to hear back from the courts..... From what I have heard the time needed to marry here varies.... I talked to someone before who siad it only took themm a week and person I spoke to said 2 weeks and another said a month..... You are told it can take anywhere from a few days to a month or more.... Insha'allah we will hear back soon because I leane in 6 weeks... A lawyer told me I should try to stay 6 months but that is too much time to be away from work so we are hoping a 3 month stay will help us through this provess.... The whole process is frustrating to me.... But I am determined to have my sweetie home with me as soon as possible :0) I wish you the best and I hope I was of some help to you