The cricket Test

[Captain Oates 911]

I haven't made any claims or assertions about the effects of immigrants on the British culture, you are the one doing that. The only claim I have made is that you have provided no evidence to subtantiate your accusations against a specific immigrant population. What you have said is all curtain twitching innuendo. These are not proofs, nothing you have said is proof of anything except perhaps (and I say perhaps advisedly) your personal prejudice against a specific immigrant group. You may think that all immigrant groups are having this 'going to the dogs' affect on British culture, but you haven't said that, you have specifically pointed to Pakistanis as the ones responsible for a 'lack of continuity of culture' (whatever the hell that may prove to mean) so my speculations as to the reason why are perfectly valid whether or not they are right or wrong.

Personally, I can point to any number of youth who do not know, respect or understand the British cultural heritage that you cherish and none of them are immigrants, nor are they the offspring of 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation immigrants. Britain is changing, of course it is, what country is standing still culturally? What country ever has? However, this change is not exclusively driven by 'outsiders', and to suggest that it is, when these outsiders make up such a paltry minority of the entire population is, quite frankly delusional.

Let's be clear, there is immigration into Britain and it does have an effect. The problem is that you are suggesting that one of the minority immigrant populations (and a shrinking 1st generation immigrant population at that) has a disproportionate and bad influence on British culture. That is not a substantiated fact because it's simply not true.

What is all this about me making 'accusations against immigrants ?'

What is all this about immigrants being a 'bad influence'

You have an agenda here and you are making things up that I have never said in order to fit that agenda

I knew you were on a witch hunt from way back and in the abscence of the racism you were thirsting after, you decided to make things up and ascribe them to me in order to move it in your desired direction.

It seems that the English tradition of fair play has already died out at your house if it ever existed there

It's like talking to Sarah Palin who also makes things up - so I will take my leave of this thread before you claim I am suggesting 'the final solution'. In fact I am known on these threads as having liberal politics and so your amateur, transparent and recorded above attempts to make me out a white supremacist are particular offensive

Good day Mr 'Truth' who hides behind the anonymity of an incomplete VJ profile and snipes from the sidelines while hiding behind that anonymity. Everyone can see who I am and where I come from and all my details but the 'Truth' person is well hidden while calling other people 'curtain twitchers'. How ironic.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

What is all this about me making 'accusations against immigrants ?'

What is all this about immigrants being a 'bad influence'

You have an agenda here and you are making things up that I have never said in order to fit that agenda

I knew you were on a witch hunt from way back and in the abscence of the racism you were thirsting after, you decided to make things up and ascribe them to me in order to move it in your desired direction.

It seems that the English tradition of fair play has already died out at your house if it ever existed there

It's like talking to Sarah Palin who also makes things up - so I will take my leave of this thread before you claim I am suggesting 'the final solution'. In fact I am known on these threads as having liberal politics and so your amateur, transparent and recorded above attempts to make me out a white supremacist are particular offensive

Good day Mr 'Truth' who hides behind the anonymity of an incomplete VJ profile and snipes from the sidelines while hiding behind that anonymity. Everyone can see who I am and where I come from and all my details but the 'Truth' person is well hidden while calling other people 'curtain twitchers'. How ironic.

She's single hence the reason she's so argumentative on here. She's looking to start a fight where there is none.

[Captain Oates 911]

She's single hence the reason she's so argumentative on here. She's looking to start a fight where there is none.

Oh I didn't realise it was a woman .... there are many people who will not countenance a discussion on immigration or changing culture and automatically assume the poster is a grand imperial wizard of the KKK. They then beat on them until all debate is extinguished and use fair means or foul to do it including falsified quotes and wildly imagined smears like 'curtain twitcher'.

I have nothing against women - my mother worked with 2,000 of them in a weaving shed for 20 years and she seriously disliked women as a result. However, I think she wasn't being fair and I keep an open mind on that subject too.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

The best parts of the wedding were Jerusalem being sung in the Abbey and the flyover of the Lancaster, Spitfire and Hurricane. I never saw the BBC coverage but if they were called "jets" then that's just really embarrassing on their part.

I think a bigger question might be why the queen, camilla and charles needed to refer to their song books during the singing of Jerusalem.

I mean, I know the lyrics by heart and I wasn't even raised in England, let alone the sovereign, present and future.

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Oh I didn't realise it was a woman .... there are many people who will not countenance a discussion on immigration or changing culture and automatically assume the poster is a grand imperial wizard of the KKK. They then beat on them until all debate is extinguished and use fair means or foul to do it including falsified quotes and wildly imagined smears like 'curtain twitcher'.

I have nothing against women - my mother worked with 2,000 of them in a weaving shed for 20 years and she seriously disliked women as a result. However, I think she wasn't being fair and I keep an open mind on that subject too.

you need to learn how to check name changes on profiles.....

[Captain Oates 911]

you need to learn how to check name changes on profiles.....

Can't wait for my 12 months to be up so I can change mine to 'Get off my Lawn'

[Ban Hammer 13,346]

Can't wait for my 12 months to be up so I can change mine to 'Get off my Lawn'

not if i snag it first!

[Vi-Jay 218]

you need to learn how to check name changes on profiles.....

Thank You!

[Captain Oates 911]

Thank You!

I can guess without looking it up !

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

So is anyone going to volunteer how to see the name change thing info ? I didn't even know this board had that option.

[Captain Oates 911]

So is anyone going to volunteer how to see the name change thing info ? I didn't even know this board had that option.

yep you can do it twice in 12 months ..

I might be 'armordinnerjacket' next time

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

hmmm new name...ya I like this. That armor dinner jacket name is catchy. I like it. I need to think of something catchy yet bold and pretentious at the same time. Something those mean ol broads from the Canadian and UK forums will surly despise.

[Vi-Jay 218]

I can guess without looking it up !

Dude!

You always present good POV.

Stand on that,

[Captain Oates 911]

hmmm new name...ya I like this. That armor dinner jacket name is catchy. I like it. I need to think of something catchy yet bold and pretentious at the same time. Something those mean ol broads from the Canadian and UK forums will surly despise.

how about 'MenRbetter'

[Vi-Jay 218]

how about 'MenRbetter'

except that 1!