Hawaii state senator questions Obama's true birth father

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Read the article. It talks about the long form. Im not defending the birthers.

What he produced is a valid birth certificate attesting to his birth in the state of Hawaii. It's been verified about a million times and it's proof of his being a natural born US citizen. The whole debate about the "long form" certificate is smoke and mirrors designed to accomplish nothing but question the legitimacy of his holding the office of Persident. Some black guy broke into the White House. That's the issue. deny it all you want but that is the issue.

You want the long form? Here it is.

[_Simpson_ 250]

What he produced is a valid birth certificate attesting to his birth in the state of Hawaii. It's been verified about a million times and it's proof of his being a natural born US citizen. The whole debate about the "long form" certificate is smoke and mirrors designed to accomplish nothing but question the legitimacy of his holding the office of Persident. Some black guy broke into the White House. That's the issue. deny it all you want but that is the issue.

You want the long form? Here it is.

No the long form is different. The state of Hawaii says that they cant release it to Obama.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

No the long form is different. The state of Hawaii says that they cant release it to Obama.

You obviously didn't look at the long form. Take a look again.

And if the State of Hawaii does not release the original birth record but rather issues what was issued to Obama then why the ** is there any debate about this? Don't need to answer the question. I already did in my last post.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

No the long form is different. The state of Hawaii says that they cant release it to Obama.

The State of Hawaii says they only release the document given to Obama. They also confirm the authenticity and accuracy of that document in comparison to the original records the State keeps, and by policy do not release.

Head injuries are serious business and medical attention should always be sought immediately.

[_Simpson_ 250]

You obviously didn't look at the long form. Take a look again.

And if the State of Hawaii does not release the original birth record but rather issues what was issued to Obama then why the ** is there any debate about this? Don't need to answer the question. I already did in my last post.

The long form has more info on it. Are you denying this?

[_Simpson_ 250]

The State of Hawaii says they only release the document given to Obama. They also confirm the authenticity and accuracy of that document in comparison to the original records the State keeps, and by policy do not release.

Head injuries are serious business and medical attention should always be sought immediately.

I know I basically just said that.

From what I understand Obama could get a copy of his long from(some say it doesnt exist anymore) but it wouldnt be certified by Hawaii. Probably why Obama doesnt want to request it because then you would get a lot of bone heads saying he altered it.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The long form has more info on it. Are you denying this?

What relevant information is missing on the document the state of Hawaii issued?

[The Dude 206]

Seems the second paragraph is your summation of the first?

The director of the dept of health says one need only a "tangible interest" to receive a copy.

Is anyone so gullible to think in the dept. of records.. they have no copying machine?

Barry... or anyone with a "tangible interest" could get a copy made.

What is your interest in seeing the document? Are you some sort of expert in birth certificate authenticity? The federal election commission accepted it as proof of eligibility to run for president. The election was 2.5 years ago. Get over it.

[Zero Sum 305]

They think they need political ammo for next year. Since they can't say they've done good by the nation, expect more silliness like this failing to enter thick skulls. All will be fine, though, and these crazy antics will likely be a warmup for the disgusting electoral season coming up. With the current setup likely staying put.

[The Dude 206]

They think they need political ammo for next year. Since they can't say they've done good by the nation, expect more silliness like this failing to enter thick skulls. All will be fine, though, and these crazy antics will likely be a warmup for the disgusting electoral season coming up. With the current setup likely staying put.

The republicans don't need any political ammo, unless they plan on running a social conservative next year. Only way you'll get the liberals out to vote in huge numbers is to run a hardline social conservative.

[Zero Sum 305]

The republicans don't need any political ammo, unless they plan on running a social conservative next year. Only way you'll get the liberals out to vote in huge numbers is to run a hardline social conservative.

Or turn away moderate conservatives concerned their platform is too insane.

[_Simpson_ 250]

What relevant information is missing on the document the state of Hawaii issued?

Something that might contradict what was written in his book, a point that has already been brought up. Something you and the other Obama minions here might of noticed if you weren't so quick to go on the birther tirade.

[_Simpson_ 250]

They think they need political ammo for next year. Since they can't say they've done good by the nation, expect more silliness like this failing to enter thick skulls. All will be fine, though, and these crazy antics will likely be a warmup for the disgusting electoral season coming up. With the current setup likely staying put.

Nobody likes a hypocrite.

Edited April 26, 2011 by _Simpson_

[Zero Sum 305]

So all they care about is a gotcha moment. Got it.

Glad to see these legislator(s) focusing on real issues then.

[The Dude 206]

Something that might contradict what was written in his book, a point that has already been brought up. Something you and the other Obama minions here might of noticed if you weren't so quick to go on the birther tirade.

LOL Simpson, Too funny. Oh wait, you're serious? You think the long form, which contains personal information not germane to the topic of his eligibility to run for president, is some sort of coverup?