Population Control

[Captain Oates 911]

Population control is automatic but you will not enjoy the mechanisms

Look at populations of any animal and you see the same pattern of rapid explosion of population and then the end of finite resources of food and shelter - and then disease starts to spread easily

Rabbits is what I say to you. Rabbits !

What we are seeing with the reptilians trying to scrap Social Security and Medicare is simply a manifestation of the process starting. We can't afford to keep everyone alive so the old and the sick and the weak and the hungry must be left to die.

It's ironic that the reptilians claim a seamless join with Christianity and big G - but they don't see the irony

It's amazing how nature takes it's course regardless of politicians the world over. They just react to events.

The huge explosion of population in the Arab world has led to all this fighting and killing in the middle east. A huge proportion of the populations there are under 25. No jobs/houses/food/health care - not enough to go round - so they try and swim upwards and it's kill or be killed

It's happening all over the world in every species including our own and always has and always will.

The thing is that we don't recognize it for what it is - exploding populations versus resources available. Cramer says buy Potash as the food is running out and farmers need fertilizer. The Potash is running out and the fields are finite and being made to produce ethanol to substitute for oil which is running out.

The culprit is - population. The problem isn't food or oil or Potash or land or disease control or communism or Mexico - it’s ALL down to population

But don't worry - the problem will take care of itself - it always does

The problem isn't evenly spread. Populations in the enlightened developed world (excluding the US) are shrinking with birth rates per female approaching 1.2 when over 2 are needed just to hold populations steady. This is the case while the rest of the world and the US is increasing at an unsustainable rate.

However, the first world cannot insulate itself from the hordes of starving, diseased, impoverished populations for long as they have the oil and a lot of land for food and minerals like in Afghanistan. Why don't we invade Afghanistan ? Oh we have - sorry.

The interesting thing is the mechanism by which all these things will even themselves out - it will be AUTOMATIC coz John Bohnehead can't figure it

So the west (except the US) has a declining population and the politicians want to change entitlements to kill off the old and the weak. The rest have the resources and an out of control population increase.

The only question is - are we going to go and kill them or are they going to come and kill us ?

Why would they kill us ? - we haven't got anything they want

I think it will be us going out into the world and killing them for their resources as advocated by Donald Trump though he did say he would 'leave them a little for their basic needs'

We could avoid all this by keeping the commander zipped - but that hasn’t occurred to anyone, especially politicians and religious leaders who want bigger flocks to tithe, so it's not going to happen fast enough

Conclusion ? keep your kids out of the army and buy Lockheed Martin stocks and the future consist of us going out there to kill for resources like food and energy. In 50 years from now, any country that wants nuclear weapons will have them and then the automatic bit really kicks in.

Rabbits !

[Zero Sum 305]

Its the Lynx and the Hare graph from the old Ecology classes.

Since we are not strictly speaking animals, we need to take a more combinatorial approach to encouraging sustainable population growth alongside logical reductions in resource consumptions. Its no secret we in the industrialized nations take in way too much for what we really need. At a rate where the consumption levels on our end far outpace the resource consumption rates of developing nations.

[mawilson 2,133]

Population control is automatic but you will not enjoy the mechanisms

Look at populations of any animal and you see the same pattern of rapid explosion of population and then the end of finite resources of food and shelter - and then disease starts to spread easily

Rabbits is what I say to you. Rabbits !

What we are seeing with the reptilians trying to scrap Social Security and Medicare is simply a manifestation of the process starting. We can't afford to keep everyone alive so the old and the sick and the weak and the hungry must be left to die.

It's ironic that the reptilians claim a seamless join with Christianity and big G - but they don't see the irony

It's amazing how nature takes it's course regardless of politicians the world over. They just react to events.

The huge explosion of population in the Arab world has led to all this fighting and killing in the middle east. A huge proportion of the populations there are under 25. No jobs/houses/food/health care - not enough to go round - so they try and swim upwards and it's kill or be killed

It's happening all over the world in every species including our own and always has and always will.

The thing is that we don't recognize it for what it is - exploding populations versus resources available. Cramer says buy Potash as the food is running out and farmers need fertilizer. The Potash is running out and the fields are finite and being made to produce ethanol to substitute for oil which is running out.

The culprit is - population. The problem isn't food or oil or Potash or land or disease control or communism or Mexico - it’s ALL down to population

But don't worry - the problem will take care of itself - it always does

The problem isn't evenly spread. Populations in the enlightened developed world (excluding the US) are shrinking with birth rates per female approaching 1.2 when over 2 are needed just to hold populations steady. This is the case while the rest of the world and the US is increasing at an unsustainable rate.

However, the first world cannot insulate itself from the hordes of starving, diseased, impoverished populations for long as they have the oil and a lot of land for food and minerals like in Afghanistan. Why don't we invade Afghanistan ? Oh we have - sorry.

The interesting thing is the mechanism by which all these things will even themselves out - it will be AUTOMATIC coz John Bohnehead can't figure it

So the west (except the US) has a declining population and the politicians want to change entitlements to kill off the old and the weak. The rest have the resources and an out of control population increase.

The only question is - are we going to go and kill them or are they going to come and kill us ?

Why would they kill us ? - we haven't got anything they want

I think it will be us going out into the world and killing them for their resources as advocated by Donald Trump though he did say he would 'leave them a little for their basic needs'

We could avoid all this by keeping the commander zipped - but that hasn’t occurred to anyone, especially politicians and religious leaders who want bigger flocks to tithe, so it's not going to happen fast enough

Conclusion ? keep your kids out of the army and buy Lockheed Martin stocks and the future consist of us going out there to kill for resources like food and energy. In 50 years from now, any country that wants nuclear weapons will have them and then the automatic bit really kicks in.

Rabbits !

Amazingly, I agree with most of what you said.

Except the part where you think they are not going to come and kill us. They will at least try. We *do* have a lot of things they want - way more than we need. Plasma TVs, iPads, dishwashers, big SUVs and houses.

[Danno 1,228]

Do you really believe this stuff or are you just smoking too much?

Check out a list of countries with the lowest rates of childbirth and in most cases you will find, those are the same countries in which having children would be the most trouble free.......In which social safety nets are in place to feed and provide for even the poorest members of that country..... yet still their birth rates are low.

The only way this makes any sense is if you are only considering world population growth as a whole, because if you look individually at countries you will find those who have lots of food are the ones not having kids.

If you are going at this in a "global" fashion then

Even your nonsense about military conflicts falls apart:

Q: what percentage of world population has dies due to military campaigns in the last 12 months?

A: No doubt less than 1.

Truth is more people are overweight around the world than are starving.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Edited April 22, 2011 by Danno

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

[Captain Oates 911]

Do you really believe this stuff or are you just smoking too much?

Check out a list of countries with the lowest rates of childbirth and in most cases you will find, those are the same countries in which having children would be the most trouble free.......In which social safety nets are in place to feed and provide for even the poorest members of that country..... yet still their birth rates are low.

The only way this makes any sense is if you are only considering world population growth as a whole, because if you look individually at countries you will find those who have lots of food are the ones not having kids.

If you are going at this in a "global" fashion then

Even your nonsense about military conflicts falls apart:

Q: what percentage of world population has dies due to military campaigns in the last 12 months?

A: No doubt less than 1.

Truth is more people are overweight around the world than are starving.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

I will let UNICEF know that the people are not starving and being overweight is the problem - so they can wind down their word wide operations

I specifically said that developed countries (ex US) have falling populations - how did you miss that ?

and as for 'we have lots of food' - don't you know that bananas dont grow in Sweden or Pineapples in Finland ?

[Vi-Jay 218]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDKI1r8wb5Y

Edited April 22, 2011 by Vi-Jay

[Danno 1,228]

I will let UNICEF know that the people are not starving and being overweight is the problem - so they can wind down their word wide operations

I specifically said that developed countries (ex US) have falling populations - how did you miss that ?

and as for 'we have lots of food' - don't you know that bananas dont grow in Sweden or Pineapples in Finland ?

No need to let them know the WHO has released this info already.

Not only are more people dying from Obesity than starvation, the Obesity ranks are swelling (literally).

Reports have also been released which indicate more people die from Obesity than AIDS as well.

Hunger is a problem in some areas, Obesity is a larger and more broad concern at this point.

[Captain Oates 911]

No need to let them know the WHO has released this info already.

Not only are more people dying from Obesity than starvation, the Obesity ranks are swelling (literally).

Reports have also been released which indicate more people die from Obesity than AIDS as well.

Hunger is a problem in some areas, Obesity is a larger and more broad concern at this point.

The availability of food will not be the issue - it will always be there BUT - at a price

There are many starving or malnourished chidren right here in the US for that very reason

Similarly for health care etc - plenty available - at a price

So a food shortage will manifest itself as unaffordable food (good food)

There are plenty of food exporting countries which have starving people at home.

The US is one.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

The availability of food will not be the issue - it will always be there BUT - at a price

There are many starving or malnourished chidren right here in the US for that very reason

Similarly for health care etc - plenty available - at a price

So a food shortage will manifest itself as unaffordable food (good food)

There are plenty of food exporting countries which have starving people at home.

The US is one.

You're living proof that abortion doesn't kill.

[Captain Oates 911]

You're living proof that abortion doesn't kill.

Please expand on that before your next suspension

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Please expand on that before your next suspension

I'm a good citizen now, I don't violate TOS anymore.

[Captain Oates 911]

I'm a good citizen now, I don't violate TOS anymore.

You have dirty little mind - get it off my lawn in future

[Danno 1,228]

The availability of food will not be the issue - it will always be there BUT - at a price

There are many starving or malnourished chidren right here in the US for that very reason

Similarly for health care etc - plenty available - at a price

So a food shortage will manifest itself as unaffordable food (good food)

There are plenty of food exporting countries which have starving people at home.

The US is one.

"Starving people right here in the US"

I'm not going to straight out call that BS but I will if you can't show me how many people in this die from Starvation a year in this country.

And don't play word games either.... (Fat people are actually starving for nutrition)

[Captain Oates 911]

"Starving people right here in the US"

I'm not going to straight out call that BS but I will if you can't show me how many people in this die from Starvation a year in this country.

And don't play word games either.... (Fat people are actually starving for nutrition)

Ok let me change that to 'hungry' - although that feels like starving

This isn't a socialist country and the safety net is not high but I agree that people are not dying of starvation here as far as I know

However, in the future, our dollars will take food from regions of the world where there is little food and the people there may well starve but only because they can't afford it

Edited April 22, 2011 by Alan the Red