Germans happily pay more for clean energy. Why don’t Americans?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Notice he didn't go round Palestine procreating like a cialis ridden gerbil ... 32 years old and no kids and not married and never lived with anyone and hangs out with 12 guys every night .........hum... what would the republicans in oklahoma say to that ?

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Gay. Obviously, and probably a pedophile. Typical clergy.

[Captain Oates 911]

Gay. Obviously, and probably a pedophile. Typical clergy.

He may have been straight but suffering from low-T

There are pills now for that but 2,000 years ago they only had powdered rhino horn

I took some of that but spent all weekend chasing land rovers

[_Simpson_ 250]

Good points, all of them. Save for the warranties. They don't usually cover upgrades just because you feel like it. I am also very glad for you that you are a very happy consumer. Go buy something.

Your just not getting it.

I am a smart shopper and we all know that smart shoppers are happy shoppers.

If you notice jundp's association with Germany, perhaps you'd realize her one line is much more of an argument than a tourists' perspective.

What if he is repeating what he has learned from his wife. jundp's quick denial of his creditability because he wasnt born there seems silly to me.

[mawilson 2,133]

The way to deal with this is easy: every person is allowed to create another one. So if a couple gets married and has two children, that's cool. If one of them has a child before, they can have only one. If they have more, they can either have a publically funded sterilization -- both of them -- or they can pay plenty of taxes to make up for the cost this extra child has on the American people.

Sterilization is a bit extreme, but at the very least we shouldn't be giving

tax *breaks* to people with kids!

That said, the US is not the problem - our birth rate is just right.

2.04 births per woman - one child to replace the woman, another to replace

the father of her baby, and an additional 0.04 for babies who do not make

it to reproductive stage.

[Zero Sum 305]

The self-proclaimed smartest superhuman in the world, Algore, has gotten it wrong, even the "consensus" of scientists that mostly are not actually scientists freely admit that. So, what hope is there for us ignorant mortals?

I had a feeling you wouldn't like Al Gore too much, and being hyperbolic is also a technique of those that have no real argument against the topic actually being discussed. I wonder if that's more political than substantive to be honest. I wonder that way since you quite subtly mis-categorize those scientists and the global consensus, but that's also another topic and one very much open to perspective (usually scientific training trumping non-scientific training in defining scientific consensus). There's hope for mortals that don't let ideology interfere with scientific findings and scientific review.

[_Simpson_ 250]

If the global warming hysteria is not hysteria - then the economy and jobs is of insignificant importance

I would suggest that having a habitable planet to live on is more important than being able to afford the interest rates on buying an iphone

Not that I am an Eco-freak. I drive a 3.5 litre 6 cylinder car and use lots of electricity. Luckily I live by a hydro dam in a desert so my monthly bill is $35 - even when it's 110 and the A/C is on at 72 degrees 24 hours a day. The $35 covers water heating/cooking/lights/and 5 computers (I trade financial instruments)

I like the Germans and Germany - I was Geschäftsführer of a company in Muenchen and it's some place the Munich Jim - but they do get a bit intense and throw themselves into every project. I would leave em to it and not interfere coz while they are doing that, they aren't bombing everybody on the planet like some nations do as their national pastime

As usual the truth lays between the two positions - global warming is very true and is dangerous - and the eco freaks answer to it is too extreme

The Catholic and Muslim attitude to birth control is a far greater danger and global warming could be coped with if the huge population explosion could be dealt with

It is hysteria. A movement in the right direction I agree but way too many people are getting ridiculous about it.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

There's hope for mortals that don't let ideology interfere with scientific findings and scientific review.

But it is ideology that powers the "Save the Earth" movement, much more than scientific findings and scientific reviews, bordering on an almost Jihadic fanaticism.

[Zero Sum 305]

Your just not getting it.

I am a smart shopper and we all know that smart shoppers are happy shoppers.

What if he is repeating what he has learned from his wife. jundp's quick denial of his creditability because he wasnt born there seems silly to me.

Like I said, go buy something then.

Jundp is a female with what I think are robust German roots. Plus I believe she teaches German language and culture if I read her correctly. Don't do the usual Simpson presumptive reasoning. It won't help.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

It is hysteria. A movement in the right direction I agree but way too many people are getting ridiculous about it.

Amen, brother!

[Zero Sum 305]

But it is ideology that powers the "Save the Earth" movement, much more than scientific findings and scientific reviews, bordering on an almost Jihadic fanaticism.

You may want to read up more on the science and then contemplate the bounds of what 'saving the planet' would mean in terms of actual population, health, and ecological dynamics. Save the hackery for another debate.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You may want to read up more on the science and then contemplate the bounds of what 'saving the planet' would mean in terms of actual population, health, and ecological dynamics remedies. Save the hackery for another debate.

Isn't that what you really mean? There is an agenda there. Read up more on that.

[Zero Sum 305]

Isn't that what you really mean? There is an agenda there. Read up more on that.

Paranoid et tu?

No. Dynamics is the word I intended to use.

[_Simpson_ 250]

Like I said, go buy something then.

Jundp is a female with what I think are robust German roots. Plus I believe she teaches German language and culture if I read her correctly. Don't do the usual Simpson presumptive reasoning. It won't help.

A smart shopper doesn't just "go buy something".

What do you know about HeatDeath?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Paranoid et tu?

No. Dynamics is the word I intended to use.

I am too old to be paranoid, but I accept your fears as well founded, although a little misguided about who the enemy really is.

[Captain Oates 911]

Like I said, go buy something then.

Jundp is a female with what I think are robust German roots. Plus I believe she teaches German language and culture if I read her correctly. Don't do the usual Simpson presumptive reasoning. It won't help.

I used to fly to Amsterdam every weekend - drive to Niedersachsen and bonk a German Psychiatrist who had 4 kids, 2 cats, a dog, a racehorse and a donkey and her suicidal patients used to demand to be let in at 3am. All her children and all her animals were on lithium and she tried to get me on it. She thought she was a witch and had brooms nailed to all the walls. I learned more about Germany that way than being the 'responsible person' for a German company in Munich