How much money do I need...

[slim 1,525]

What's this? Women hijacking the the RUB? Suddenly they're everywhere...like a zombie movie.

2012 is coming...

There is a saying "A man should be just a little bit more handsome than a monkey"

Although I don't think that women are going to look for somebody not very good-looking on purpose (well... insecure women might), it's more about "not judging a book by its cover".

A woman is her looks... a man, his job.

[AmyWrites 593]

A woman is her looks... a man, his job.

So what about when she gets old? You can use as much Botox as there exists in the earth but nothing stops aging. And what if the man gets fired, takes months in finding a new job and has to drain his savings, or becomes ill?

It can't be that simple for a long term relationship... unless you're willing to replace your SO every few years, which isn't really a bad idea after giving it some thought.

[slim 1,525]

So what about when she gets old? You can use as much Botox as there exists in the earth but nothing stops aging. And what if the man gets fired, takes months in finding a new job and has to drain his savings, or becomes ill?

It can't be that simple for a long term relationship... unless you're willing to replace your SO every few years, which isn't really a bad idea after giving it some thought.

A beautiful woman will age gracefully. A man with a solid work history will be established enough to survive.

My point is, women look for a stable man. Men look for a beautiful woman.

[AmyWrites 593]

A beautiful woman will age gracefully. A man with a solid work history will be established enough to survive.

My point is, women look for a stable man. Men look for a beautiful woman.

Agreed...

[ONA 133]

Women actually look for certain qualities in men (in addition to love). Some of those certain qualities might also help to get a good job, but it's not like the job itself is the most important thing.

Now about women. Appearance is not a key factor here. There are a lot of beautiful women, but from my experience, guys are attracted not only by appearance. If it all depended on the appearence only, my fiance probably would have been married long ago. But it's about support, sharing thoughts, experiences and interests ect. so basically also it's about certain qualities.

It's a little bit more complicated than just money or appearance, which is actually good. Otherwise life would've been boring.

[AmyWrites 593]

Women actually look for certain qualities in men (in addition to love). Some of those certain qualities might also help to get a good job, but it's not like the job itself is the most important thing.

Now about women. Appearance is not a key factor here. There are a lot of beautiful women, but from my experience, guys are attracted not only by appearance. If it all depended on the appearence only, my fiance probably would have been married long ago. But it's about support, sharing thoughts, experiences and interests ect. so basically also it's about certain qualities.

It's a little bit more complicated than just money or appearance, which is actually good. Otherwise life would've been boring.

I think he meant it's the first thing we notice, or something like that.

To me a man being wealthy doesn't matter much... it's that he's responsible enough to hold a decent job for a long period of time. I was once with a man who was wealthy by inheritance and couldn't stand him because he'd lie down on the sofa watching TV like a dead tuna all day.

And aging, even if done gracefully, will still be aging. You still won't be the smokin, tight-bodied 20 year old at 60. It'll decrease even if slightly.

So attractiveness/financial stability aren't or shouldn't be the sole things of importance in a relationship. But to each their own.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So what about when she gets old? You can use as much Botox as there exists in the earth but nothing stops aging. And what if the man gets fired, takes months in finding a new job and has to drain his savings, or becomes ill?

It can't be that simple for a long term relationship... unless you're willing to replace your SO every few years, which isn't really a bad idea after giving it some thought.

When Alla is "old" I will be dead and she will be a rich widow. Get it? Another reason to marry a guy 12 years older than you.

I am also 2 clicks more handsome than a monkey. I won't cheat on her because anyone else would just be a disappointment.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Women actually look for certain qualities in men (in addition to love). Some of those certain qualities might also help to get a good job, but it's not like the job itself is the most important thing.

Now about women. Appearance is not a key factor here. There are a lot of beautiful women, but from my experience, guys are attracted not only by appearance. If it all depended on the appearence only, my fiance probably would have been married long ago. But it's about support, sharing thoughts, experiences and interests ect. so basically also it's about certain qualities.

It's a little bit more complicated than just money or appearance, which is actually good. Otherwise life would've been boring.

ou are too young to have very much experience. We are attracted by appearance. I appreciate you trying to make us more complicated than we are but we aren't really. Men are visual. A for sale ad for a car is 800 times (I did not make that up) more likely to sell to a man if there is a photo attached. The very best beer in the world does NOT use ugly women in the ads. Once we get past that, yes I like an intelligent attractive woman that likes to cook and care for her family and please her husband. Fortunately such women are common in the FSU. Intelligence and good looks are not mutually exclusive.

Nor do I think that we have it "easy" because a woman like my wife expects a lot from her husband. I am not the only one with hugh expectations and I have said 1000 times or more...FSU women are not stepford wives and they are NOT for beginners.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

A beautiful woman will age gracefully. A man with a solid work history will be established enough to survive.

My point is, women look for a stable man. Men look for a beautiful woman.

[baron555 934]

FSU women .........they are NOT for beginners.

[ONA 133]

ou are too young to have very much experience. We are attracted by appearance. I appreciate you trying to make us more complicated than we are but we aren't really. Men are visual. A for sale ad for a car is 800 times (I did not make that up) more likely to sell to a man if there is a photo attached. The very best beer in the world does NOT use ugly women in the ads. Once we get past that, yes I like an intelligent attractive woman that likes to cook and care for her family and please her husband. Fortunately such women are common in the FSU. Intelligence and good looks are not mutually exclusive.

Gary, I may be young but... the guys I ever dated and my fiance are definitely more complicated than that. They all could and can have all kinds of beautiful women. I am pretty too, but I know for sure that the looks was not the thing that attracted them the most in me.

I agree with AmyWrites that the appearance is probably the first thing guys notice, but there are beautiful women, with whom guys only go out once or twice and there are beautiful women whom they marry.

That was my point.

Nor do I think that we have it "easy" because a woman like my wife expects a lot from her husband. I am not the only one with hugh expectations and I have said 1000 times or more...FSU women are not stepford wives and they are NOT for beginners.

Really? I didn't even know

You think that I don't know what FSU women are like? For real?

Edited April 15, 2011 by ONA

[ONA 133]

When Alla is "old" I will be dead and she will be a rich widow. Get it? Another reason to marry a guy 12 years older than you.

Btw most of Russian fairy tales end with a sentence "And they lived happily ever after and died on the same day". That's why you want to marry a guy close to your age

To each his own though.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Gary, I may be young but... the guys I ever dated and my fiance are definitely more complicated than that. They all could and can have all kinds of beautiful women. I am pretty too, but I know for sure that the looks was not the thing that attracted them the most in me.

I agree with AmyWrites that the appearance is probably the first thing guys notice, but there are beautiful women, with whom guys only go out once or twice and there are beautiful women whom they marry.

That was my point.

Really? I didn't even know

You think that I don't know what FSU women are like? For real?

The guys you date are young also. And yes, as I said, get past the beauty and there has to be something interestng, at least for me. But interesting ugly women are not, well...interesting. There are plenty of beautiful, interesting women.

And no, I do not think you have any idea what it is like to be a man married to a traditional woman from the FSU. To say so is not an insult, nor is it to inform you in particular of anything (you will probably never have the need for such information ) it is just that a lot people, particularly men, that are either interested in marrying a woman from the FSU or those that watch over us from other forums to be sure we are being good to our wives and fiancees, (and never say anything bad about American women) think that FSU women are like robots that are there to provide pleasure to their husbands (mostly in the form of amazing and frequent sex) with nothing in return.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Btw most of Russian fairy tales end with a sentence "And they lived happily ever after and died on the same day". That's why you want to marry a guy close to your age

To each his own though.

I have tons of books of Russian fairy tales. (my wife is a linguist, the biggest cost of getting her her was her books and she didn't bring 1/3 of them, the rest are still on our shelves in Donetsk) Most involve one or the other spouse beating each other with something until one of them turns to gold! THEN they live happily ever after. We actually read them together (Russian practice for me and Alla likes fairy tales) and we laugh uproariously at these sometimes.

Seriously, our library in Burlington sold off the majority of their Russian section a couple years ago. This was before Alla could drive and sometimes waited for me to pick her up at the library. She bought THE WHOLE COLLECTION!!!!!!!!!!!! I came to pick her up and she said "Come in I have to show you what I bought" She took me in this room downstairs full of shelves of books. "This" What? "this, these books" Which books? "ALL of them" suffice to say we have plenty of Russian books.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

seriously, ONA are you aware that the FSU has the largest life expectancy difference between men and women of any industrialed country (ies)? Nearly 20 years. Nice fairy tales, but given the statistics, not even close to true. The huge difference is largely attributed to alcoholism and lifestyle differences between men and women in the FSU.

Edited April 15, 2011 by Gary and Alla