Politics & Religion Organizer Needed

[TBoneTX 45,266]

Yes or no, in your opinion. No further conversation is necessary.

Not enough information yet, truthfully. We don't know what the Organizers have been told by the highers-up, or how flexible the interpretation of the instructions may be. Perhaps the Admiral should clarify things here.

[^_^ 5,021]

See the exchange below and tell me if an organizer is, in your opinion, high enough on the VJ food chain to set policy pertaining to what is and isn't appropriate content for a forum.

Yes or no, in your opinion. No further conversation is necessary.

Not enough information yet, truthfully. We don't know what the Organizers have been told by the highers-up, or how flexible the interpretation of the instructions may be. Perhaps the Admiral should clarify things here.

Of course 'the Admiral' should clarify things. That has been mentioned a few times upthread.

If every organizer (there are so many!) decided to aggressively enforce his or her own 'definition' for politics and religion and off-topic and polls ... there would be chaos.

So yes, I do hope the 'definition' by Darnell came from above and isn't something he conjured up. We won't know until 'the Admiral' (i like that title, si man) speaks up.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Not enough information yet, truthfully. We don't know what the Organizers have been told by the highers-up, or how flexible the interpretation of the instructions may be. Perhaps the Admiral should clarify things here.

He certainly was trying to cause problems. The first thread he moves at 3:22pm entitled "Welfare gone Extreme"...certainly sounds political - a complaint against the US government. A few people complain.

Then 30 minutes later he starts churning up other threads that have been buried for weeks and were unlikely to come up again.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Not enough information yet, truthfully. We don't know what the Organizers have been told by the highers-up, or how flexible the interpretation of the instructions may be. Perhaps the Admiral should clarify things here.

This is what I ask for. When Darrell made the first really boneheaded thread move I naively expected admin to come and change it but then Kathyrn came and for the most specious of reasons upheld it. Of course that thread degenerated as any level headed person would have to know would have happened and expected and became locked. Now even more idiotic thread moves are happening so the only way this has to be kept being allowed is that the Admins are going along with this and the most highly exalted one has laid down a new policy that we know nothing about. If Ewok comes in and tells us he agrees with everything then that tells us we have a new policy. As it stands now it appears that Darnell is abusing his organizer ability to reflect his own personal views and be damned the policy in place now.

[^_^ 5,021]

He certainly was trying to cause problems. The first thread he moves at 3:22pm entitled "Welfare gone Extreme"...certainly sounds political - a complaint against the US government. A few people complain.

Then 30 minutes later he starts churning up other threads that have been buried for weeks and were unlikely to come up again.

Yeap. He was being a tad childish, maybe worse.

[TBoneTX 45,266]

Well, perhaps people who are dissatisfied should volunteer to help as Organizers!

[^_^ 5,021]

... the most highly exalted one has laid down a new policy that we know nothing about.

Yes, this all goes to whether or not an organizer is the right person to be setting policy for what is or isn't acceptable content for a particular forum. On a site as fragmented as this one, those guidelines are important and they need to come from the top and not from the bottom.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Well, perhaps people who are dissatisfied should volunteer to help as Organizers!

And what? To follow Darnell and clean up his mess?

[^_^ 5,021]

Well, perhaps people who are dissatisfied should volunteer to help as Organizers!

You're missing the point. I assume not on purpose.

You know what would happen? I'd disagree with his move and move it back. He'd move it back. I'd move it back. We'd both have our own set of guidelines backing up our own decisions.

The problem is that organizers shouldn't be making up their own guidelines.

[luckytxn 2,264]

Yes, this all goes to whether or not an organizer is the right person to be setting policy for what is or isn't acceptable content for a particular forum. On a site as fragmented as this one, those guidelines are important and they need to come from the top and not from the bottom.

Exactly. As it appears now it looks like an organizer is setting policy and a huge bias is being displayed.

[웃 910]

Anyone = * got a good <Darnell IMPRESSION "?"...Steven is %good at it....Anyone else want to# give it a shot? Here is mine:

I am DARNELL^ - I, am - such a great "organizer" because I 'ACTUALLY' = do = ORGANIZE !!!!!

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That & is REALLY "silly", @BECAUSE - I am ; a syndicated; WRITER - = Yer wrong+ > - 'I am'+ {RIGHT} "!!!!!!! !!!!!! !!!!!"

Edited April 12, 2011 by Lord Infamous

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

I am happy to take a look later today. I am on my phone at the moment but can check this out via my PC later. If it takes me srtting additional firm guidelines, especially for OT and Politics areas then that is fine. I prefer the orgs have the best guidelines possible. This is true for the mods and even myself, helping improve consistency. If possible can we take a pause (orgs too) on this topic until I can read up abd check later? Thanks!!

[Ban Hammer 13,332]

Well, perhaps people who are dissatisfied should volunteer to help as Organizers!

si man. and then they too can hear the "but you're part of the staff here" when they post and "don't move my favorite thread" and so on.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If possible can we take a pause (orgs too) on this topic until I can read up abd check later? Thanks!!

si man. and then they too can hear the "but you're part of the staff here" when they post and "don't move my favorite thread" and so on.

[Amby 490]

I will be the P&R organizer

eta: I'm awesome at organizing but I will never moderate because I don't care enough to tell people to shut up most of the time

Edited April 12, 2011 by Amby