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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
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We get married a week ago. Now we want to send all the documents out tomorrow. We don't have formal Marriage Certificate. The court will send us in 4-6 weeks.from the day we got married. My visa will expire in 10 days. So we want to send all the docs now. But we got a copy Marriage License. Can we use it instead of the formal Marriage Certificate???

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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We get married a week ago. Now we want to send all the documents out tomorrow. We don't have formal Marriage Certificate. The court will send us in 4-6 weeks.from the day we got married. My visa will expire in 10 days. So we want to send all the docs now. But we got a copy Marriage License. Can we use it instead of the formal Marriage Certificate???

No, you need the one that is issued after the marriage is recorded.

YMMV

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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We get married a week ago. Now we want to send all the documents out tomorrow. We don't have formal Marriage Certificate. The court will send us in 4-6 weeks.from the day we got married. My visa will expire in 10 days. So we want to send all the docs now. But we got a copy Marriage License. Can we use it instead of the formal Marriage Certificate???

Congratulations on the wedding!

You need the formal marriage certificate to file for AOS. What kind of visa did you enter on? If you entered on a K1 and married within 90 days of arrival, then don't worry about the expiration date. If you are trying to adjust status from another type of visa, then I don't know how the expiration date will affect you if at all.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
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Congratulations on the wedding!

You need the formal marriage certificate to file for AOS. What kind of visa did you enter on? If you entered on a K1 and married within 90 days of arrival, then don't worry about the expiration date. If you are trying to adjust status from another type of visa, then I don't know how the expiration date will affect you if at all.

Thanks!!

I entered in with B1 Visa. Can we send the copy license first? Then maybe they will ask us the some more documents. Then we could send together.

No, you need the one that is issued after the marriage is recorded.

Could we send the copy first? Then when they ask for supplements. We could send the formal one together. At that time, we should already get it.

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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I entered in with B1 Visa. Can we send the copy license first? Then maybe they will ask us the some more documents. Then we could send together.

First of all, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did not enter with the intent to marry and then adjust status on this entry (entering on a non-immigrant visa with intent to adjust status is fraud). Another thing I did not think of earlier is that expiration date. The time of authorized stay on an entry is what is written down on the I-94.

If you don't send the certificate when you file, you will receive an RFE for it. Sending in a copy of the license is pointless, all a license allows you to do is obtain a certificate.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
Timeline
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First of all, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did not enter with the intent to marry and then adjust status on this entry (entering on a non-immigrant visa with intent to adjust status is fraud). Another thing I did not think of earlier is that expiration date. The time of authorized stay on an entry is what is written down on the I-94.

If you don't send the certificate when you file, you will receive an RFE for it. Sending in a copy of the license is pointless, all a license allows you to do is obtain a certificate.

I met him here after almost three months I came here. After 2 months we met we decided to get married. I don't have the intent to stay or get married when I came to USA. The expired date is Apr 20 2011.

So we could send without the marriage certificate first. Will it affect me to get the Greencard??

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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So we could send without the marriage certificate first. Will it affect me to get the Greencard??

Expect an RFE for the marriage certificate should you send your documents and forms without it. Once they have the complete file, they will move forward with adjudication.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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I wouldn't send it in without the marriage certificate. The certificate shows that you have a valid relationship to petition, and without it, I think there is a chance they will not accept your package at all. They may accept it and then send you a RFE for the marriage certificate,but there is a time window to respond. If you get a RFE and do not have the marriage certificate to send back to them by the due date, they will deny your AOS. Either way, I think it is best to wait until you have the marriage cert in hand. If you had a time constraint on your AOS, why didn't you find a faster method to get your marriage certificate? Did you ask if there was a way to get your certified marriage certificate sooner?

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
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Expect an RFE for the marriage certificate should you send your documents and forms without it. Once they have the complete file, they will move forward with adjudication.

So you mean I can send without a marriage certificate?? I just don't want to wait, I don't want to overstay...

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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I'm with Harpa Timsah, don't send anything without the certificate.

I would be remiss if I didn't say that the best thing you can do is to return to your country and start the CR-1 process. I know you don't want to be apart from your spouse but at the same time, sending off the file without the formal certificate runs the risk of outright rejection that Harpa Timsah alluded to. You are also keenly aware that you will be out of status while waiting to receive the certificate. I've heard different things from different people in regards to overstay and being married to a US citizen. Since I do not know the law on that myself, I am not qualified to comment.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

Posted (edited)

Overstay is irrelevant/forgiven for spouses of US citizens.

This case already has some other red flags that they will have to overcome, however. They did not know eachother when she arrived and therefore had about a 2 months courtship before they got married, and they got married right before the visa was about to expire, showing that they possibly married just to avoid having to go home. Also the Op has said in other posts I believe that they came for work reasons, but then suddenly they don't have a job or quit or something. Anyway, hopefully I am wrong and they just fell in love.

Edited by Harpa Timsah

AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
Timeline
Posted

I wouldn't send it in without the marriage certificate. The certificate shows that you have a valid relationship to petition, and without it, I think there is a chance they will not accept your package at all. They may accept it and then send you a RFE for the marriage certificate,but there is a time window to respond. If you get a RFE and do not have the marriage certificate to send back to them by the due date, they will deny your AOS. Either way, I think it is best to wait until you have the marriage cert in hand. If you had a time constraint on your AOS, why didn't you find a faster method to get your marriage certificate? Did you ask if there was a way to get your certified marriage certificate sooner?

I'm with Harpa Timsah, don't send anything without the certificate.

I would be remiss if I didn't say that the best thing you can do is to return to your country and start the CR-1 process. I know you don't want to be apart from your spouse but at the same time, sending off the file without the formal certificate runs the risk of outright rejection that Harpa Timsah alluded to. You are also keenly aware that you will be out of status while waiting to receive the certificate. I've heard different things from different people in regards to overstay and being married to a US citizen. Since I do not know the law on that myself, I am not qualified to comment.

Thank you all!! Do you know how long is the time window for RFE?? The court said they have to take that long to get things done. :( A lawyer said I could overstay and then send documents out. If there is no choice, I might just wait.

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
Timeline
Posted

Overstay is irrelevant/forgiven for spouses of US citizens.

This case already has some other red flags that they will have to overcome, however. They did not know eachother when she arrived and therefore had about a 2 months courtship before they got married, and they got married right before the visa was about to expire, showing that they possibly married just to avoid having to go home. Also the Op has said in other posts I believe that they came for work reasons, but then suddenly they don't have a job or quit or something. Anyway, hopefully I am wrong and they just fell in love.

I did quit my job and start traveling around US. Because something unhappy happened between me and the company. But I didn't expect that I will meet anyone. Hope we are blessed by GOD. Thanks. It is good to know I could overstay legally!! :)

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: China
Timeline
Posted

Overstay is irrelevant/forgiven for spouses of US citizens.

This case already has some other red flags that they will have to overcome, however. They did not know eachother when she arrived and therefore had about a 2 months courtship before they got married, and they got married right before the visa was about to expire, showing that they possibly married just to avoid having to go home. Also the Op has said in other posts I believe that they came for work reasons, but then suddenly they don't have a job or quit or something. Anyway, hopefully I am wrong and they just fell in love.

But we do get married so fast for me can stay here. We don't want to be apart from each other. I don't understand if they deny two persons in love...

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: China
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I suggest you go back to the courthouse, talk with a clerk, ask about any 'expediting fee', then if there IS ONE, pay it, get marriage certificate within a few days.

Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
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