Best way to meet a Ukrainian/Russian (and cheapest)

[Nasturtium 500]

We agree on the issue. It means "not spousal material"

I think she means that "not spousal material" is the result of the conversion, so she was wondering what does the conversion entail.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I think she means that "not spousal material" is the result of the conversion, so she was wondering what does the conversion entail.

Who really knows? I think she is confused. Maybe she will tell us why she wouldn't marry an American man.

[slim 1,530]

I have no idea what it means when you say 'converted to an American woman'.

Abandoning all fashion sense and pride in being a woman. Becoming dumpy looking, "empowered" on the wrong issues, generally unhappy with their already nice life and unsupportive of their husbands, male friends and co-workers. Also, they'll become envious of more attractive women and feel like the whole world is out to destroy them.

[Nasturtium 500]

Who really knows? I think she is confused. Maybe she will tell us why she wouldn't marry an American man.

Well, complaining can't be part of the conversion since you said Alla complained about aspects of there after she had been here for some time. I still postulate it's a personality difference you're seeing and that it's not related to culture. I've met a lot of the same personality across the world... entitlement rampant, resistant to change, demonization of other, etc. How it displays is shaped by society and culture-- but the root is very similar.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Abandoning all fashion sense and pride in being a woman. Becoming dumpy looking, "empowered" on the wrong issues, generally unhappy with their already nice life and unsupportive of their husbands, male friends and co-workers. Also, they'll become envious of more attractive women and feel like the whole world is out to destroy them.

Alla is none of that. As I suspected, she has not been converted.

Nothing about cars or buses Slim? Elevators?

[Nasturtium 500]

Abandoning all fashion sense and pride in being a woman. Becoming dumpy looking, "empowered" on the wrong issues, generally unhappy with their already nice life and unsupportive of their husbands, male friends and co-workers. Also, they'll become envious of more attractive women and feel like the whole world is out to destroy them.

Lots of that falls under entitlement issues.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Well, complaining can't be part of the conversion since you said Alla complained about aspects of there after she had been here for some time. I still postulate it's a personality difference you're seeing and that it's not related to culture. I've met a lot of the same personality across the world... entitlement rampant, resistant to change, demonization of other, etc. How it displays is shaped by society and culture-- but the root is very similar.

Profound. I hope Lisa C understands

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Lots of that falls under entitlement issues.

Indeed.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Also, they'll become envious of more attractive women and feel like the whole world is out to destroy them.

That is not purely an American woman trait. That is more universal.

[slim 1,530]

Lots of that falls under entitlement issues.

All of it does, really. At the end of the day, that's what's wrong with most folks in our society. "I'm special and I deserve this."

[eekee 182]

Is it so shocking that men, who are visual creatures, prefer women who keep in good shape, dress nicely, can walk in heels, and know how accentuate their features to maximize their prettiness quotient? It's a no-brainer to me. I'm a feminist, but I'm also a realist. In Russia, I'm practically chubby. When I go home, everyone asks me what my secret is for staying so thin and I'm nearly always the thinnest woman in a store/restaurant/whatever. Young American women do tend to be very lax with their appearance, and I say that as a young American women.

[Brad and Vika 129]

Is it so shocking that men, who are visual creatures, prefer women who keep in good shape, dress nicely, can walk in heels, and know how accentuate their features to maximize their prettiness quotient? It's a no-brainer to me. I'm a feminist, but I'm also a realist. In Russia, I'm practically chubby. When I go home, everyone asks me what my secret is for staying so thin and I'm nearly always the thinnest woman in a store/restaurant/whatever. Young American women do tend to be very lax with their appearance, and I say that as a young American women.

Careful eekee, you are going to lose your union card by saying things like that

Edited April 16, 2011 by Brad and Vika

[Ban Hammer 13,450]

Is it so shocking that men, who are visual creatures, prefer women who keep in good shape, dress nicely, can walk in heels, and know how accentuate their features to maximize their prettiness quotient? It's a no-brainer to me. I'm a feminist, but I'm also a realist. In Russia, I'm practically chubby. When I go home, everyone asks me what my secret is for staying so thin and I'm nearly always the thinnest woman in a store/restaurant/whatever. Young American women do tend to be very lax with their appearance, and I say that as a young American women.

i always thought you were russian.

[eekee 182]

I live in Russia and I have RUB roots, but I was born and raised in America.

[Nasturtium 500]

All of it does, really. At the end of the day, that's what's wrong with most folks in our society. "I'm special and I deserve this."

I've seen it everywhere though. Perhaps that's why I don't like people in general