Is Trump about to blow the Obama Birth place hoax wide open?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I really don't. I may disagree with you on some things, but I still respect your opinion or stance - when you actually give your opinion out loud instead of dilly-dallying around questions.

This must be some new definition of the word 'respect' then.

[^_^ 5,021]

Success and wealth are human constructs

Why is that a problem? We are all humans, after all.

Aren't we?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Why is that a problem? We are all humans, after all.

Aren't we?

It's a problem when you try to use biology to explain sociology.

[Amby 490]

If it makes you guys feel any better, when I asked two geneticists about that article and a "lazy gene" idea, they laughed at me. After laughing, one of them even shook his head and put it down on the table because he couldn't believe someone would even come to that conclusion.

Edited April 9, 2011 by Amby

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If it makes you guys feel any better, when I asked two geneticists about that article and a "lazy gene" idea, they laughed at me. After laughing, one of them even shook his head and put it down on the table because he couldn't believe someone would even come to that conclusion.

Naturally

[Amby 490]

Naturally

They also explained it. I was going to post it but I don't even remember what thread it was.

[Peikko 1,575]

Why is that a problem? We are all humans, after all.

Aren't we?

It's not a problem until you try to use human constructs as a basis for scientific research. If it doesn't exist outside of the human imagination it's not something that can be studied.

Activity versus inactivity can be studied; lazy versus industrious can not.

Lazy and industrious are value laden descriptions of inactivity/activity. Neither state needs a description and neither state is 'good' or 'bad'. They are just different and prove adventitious and disadvantageous in different types of environment. Social genetics is basically bullshit.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If it makes you guys feel any better, when I asked two geneticists about that article and a "lazy gene" idea, they laughed at me. After laughing, one of them even shook his head and put it down on the table because he couldn't believe someone would even come to that conclusion.

Did you show them the caffeine gene and the liberal gene articles as well? What was their conclusions there?

I love the selective outrage.

[Amby 490]

Did you show them the caffeine gene and the liberal gene articles as well? What was their conclusions there?

I love the selective outrage.

I think I'm done with the genes topic. It's frustrating trying to actually discuss it with people who don't completely understand. I don't have the patience or desire to explain it thoroughly enough that the lightbulb goes on for everyone.

Edited April 9, 2011 by Amby

[Peikko 1,575]

Did you show them the caffeine gene and the liberal gene articles as well? What was their conclusions there?

I love the selective outrage.

What 'outrage' is this? It's not outrage, it's an attempt to explain why certain types of labeling ascribed to scientific study by journalists are nonsensical. Clearly you don't have the smarts to understand that (I mean, lord at least three people have tried in various different ways) I guess it's not your fault and I shouldn't laugh; it's more sad than anything but I am sure this is more grist to your mill that you know more than 'educated librul types. More fool you.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

[mawilson 2,133]

Success and wealth are human constructs

So is alcohol dependence or depression, both of which have a strong genetic influence.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

So is alcohol dependence or depression, both of which have a strong genetic influence.

I don't really trust your layman's genetics Mark - especially in light of the whole laziness/success/wealth debacle.

[mawilson 2,133]

It's a problem when you try to use biology to explain sociology.

Psychopathy is mostly hereditary. Is that a problem for you?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Psychopathy is mostly hereditary. Is that a problem for you?