Letter Certifying Pregnancy & intent to marry

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I'm following the advice of everyone here and drafting a letter to include with our K-1 package. Here's what I have so far:

To whom it may concern:

This letter is to certify that I’m aware of and the father to the pregnancy of the beneficiary, Amy Antonio, to this petition for her K-1 status visa. The date of conception was approximately January 10th, 2011 during my stay in Manila. A check of the passport pages supplied with this application package will prove that this date is within the date ranges of my stay. I also certify my intent to enter willfully into this marriage with the beneficiary within 90 days of her entrance into the United States.

Would this work? Should I change or add anything? The only thing I can think to include with it would be a copy of the ultrasound picture I have and the chat transcript for the date that she confirmed we are pregnant. Thanks in advance.

Pregnancy does not prove anything except she is pregnant which is not required for the petition. Unless you have an DNA test of the fetus it does not prove it is yours or that you even met in person.

Use the VJ letter of intent samples, and attach copies of your passport stamps, boarding passes and maybe one or two photos. Nothing else is needed and they couldn;t care less that she is pregnant.

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Pregnancy does not prove anything except she is pregnant which is not required for the petition. Unless you have an DNA test of the fetus it does not prove it is yours or that you even met in person.

Use the VJ letter of intent samples, and attach copies of your passport stamps, boarding passes and maybe one or two photos. Nothing else is needed and they couldn;t care less that she is pregnant.

No, I am pregnant, I am the USC. My question is, is it relevant in the How We Met portion of the paperwork? I mean, we met and i got pregnant right away. So, frankly, our relationship and intent to marry is because of the pregnancy.

It's pretty silly to think that i would bring someone here if i didn't think he was the father...

And btw i happen to think it's pretty awesome that he is willing to give up everything and move here to help me raise our daughter.

[dukeandduchess 141]

No, I am pregnant, I am the USC. My question is, is it relevant in the How We Met portion of the paperwork? I mean, we met and i got pregnant right away. So, frankly, our relationship and intent to marry is because of the pregnancy.

It's pretty silly to think that i would bring someone here if i didn't think he was the father...

And btw i happen to think it's pretty awesome that he is willing to give up everything and move here to help me raise our daughter.

The "How you Met" only wants to know when and where you met. A lot of people think it is asking for all the details of your relationship/falling in love but it isn't.

Not trying to sound cold, but they just want to know that you've met in person within the last 2 years. If you wanted to include the pregnancy in that description you can, but it is not required.

I think it's great that he wants to be a part of your life too! It's just not crucial to your application, that's all

[baron555 934]

I'm following the advice of everyone here and drafting a letter to include with our K-1 package. Here's what I have so far:

To whom it may concern:

This letter is to certify that I’m aware of and the father to the pregnancy of the beneficiary, Amy Antonio, to this petition for her K-1 status visa. The date of conception was approximately January 10th, 2011 during my stay in Manila. A check of the passport pages supplied with this application package will prove that this date is within the date ranges of my stay. I also certify my intent to enter willfully into this marriage with the beneficiary within 90 days of her entrance into the United States.

Would this work? Should I change or add anything? The only thing I can think to include with it would be a copy of the ultrasound picture I have and the chat transcript for the date that she confirmed we are pregnant. Thanks in advance.

Pregnancy and validity of relationship are two totally different things. I wouldn't mention it at all; it may imply that you are looking for immigration based on her getting pregnant and not a real relationship. It is not required for approval.

[Ray-J 2]

Okay fellow VJ'ers... it's been a while since I started this thread and a lot has happened since then. Amy gave birth to our beautiful daughter, Serena Marie (last name withheld), on Sept 25. She was born 3 weeks early but still considered full term at 37 weeks. I arrived in the Philippines on Oct. 10 and stayed for a month. Amy's embassy interview was on Oct. 18. They didn't even ask to see any copies of what we had sent into USCIS. So, an additional letter was unnecessary for Manila (other embassies may have different requirements). What I ended up doing was simply listing Serena as our daughter in the appropriate places on the DS forms the embassy has you fill out. The interview asked if we had her CRBA taken care of yet and was satisfied when we told her we were in the process of doing so. After that, all the interviewer was concerned about was my income level and that it was over the 125% minimum.

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Thanks, dukeandduchess. It's responses like Baron555's that throw me off... It IS because of the pregnancy, so what? Why is it any less "real?" Especially in the eyes of bureaucrats...(I should know, i am one!)

Ray-J, CONGRATS! That's so great that you got to be there and spend time with them right away! Thanks for letting us know how it worked out, i also saw the comment about having to accept the pregnancy and wasn't sure how relevant is it. Much success to you and your new family

[Ray-J 2]

Thanks, dukeandduchess. It's responses like Baron555's that throw me off... It IS because of the pregnancy, so what? Why is it any less "real?" Especially in the eyes of bureaucrats...(I should know, i am one!)

Ray-J, CONGRATS! That's so great that you got to be there and spend time with them right away! Thanks for letting us know how it worked out, i also saw the comment about having to accept the pregnancy and wasn't sure how relevant is it. Much success to you and your new family

Even though the relationship may be due to your pregnancy (congrats, by the way), the only thing the embassy is concerned with is if the relationship is a valid and genuine one. They're more concerned with if the beneficiary is just getting married to come to the US, only to divorce as soon as they get their green card. In this sense, the pregnancy will have no bearing on the outcome of the petition. However, if you're able to be there for his interview and the embassy will allow it (Manila is one of the few that do), be by his side. It shows the interviewer there is a valid relationship and almost guarantees an approval (depending upon country). With that said, Barron is right. It has nothing to do with the petition. I never mentioned it in ours.

Edited December 5, 2011 by Ray-J

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Even though the relationship may be due to your pregnancy (congrats, by the way), the only thing the embassy is concerned with is if the relationship is a valid and genuine one. They're more concerned with if the beneficiary is just getting married to come to the US, only to divorce as soon as they get their green card. In this sense, the pregnancy will have no bearing on the outcome of the petition. However, if you're able to be there for his interview and the embassy will allow it (Manila is one of the few that do), be by his side. It shows the interviewer there is a valid relationship and almost guarantees an approval (depending upon country). With that said, Barron is right. It has nothing to do with the petition. I never mentioned it in ours.

Thanks

I guess i have a hard time with some of the more philosophical aspects... So what if we divorce, ever? He should still be allowed to have a green card to travel between the countries and participate in his child's life.

I would love to go to the interview, not sure how that would pan out with my new job and baby though, after maternity leave and all :/

[Golden Gate 530]

In some high fraud countries, a beneficiary is more than happy to get the petitioner pregnant thinking it will get them a visa. They come here and they abandon the relationship and the child, because they were only in it for the greencard. So it can look suspicious at some consulates with getting pregnant upon meeting for the first time.

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In some high fraud countries, a beneficiary is more than happy to get the petitioner pregnant thinking it will get them a visa. They come here and they abandon the relationship and the child, because they were only in it for the greencard. So it can look suspicious at some consulates with getting pregnant upon meeting for the first time.

Wouldn't child support come into play, then? If you defaulted on CS, wouldn't that affect your status?

I'm totally going by my own common sense here, not the law or anything...

[Golden Gate 530]

Wouldn't child support come into play, then? If you defaulted on CS, wouldn't that affect your status?

I'm totally going by my own common sense here, not the law or anything...

It's possible, but I am not sure the people who intend to defraud the US government have thought that far ahead or really know our system that well.

[Austramerican 83]

Wouldn't child support come into play, then? If you defaulted on CS, wouldn't that affect your status?

I'm totally going by my own common sense here, not the law or anything...

Assuming the man is the beneficiary in this scenario, keep in mind that until he becomes a citizen or until the required working hours is fulfilled, the petitioner is responsible for the beneficiary not becoming a public charge. So if the male beneficiary is a public charge the woman petitioner would have to provide for him, not the other way around with child support. So if the guy has bad intentions (this is all hypothetical btw) then its kinda win win for him.

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Assuming the man is the beneficiary in this scenario, keep in mind that until he becomes a citizen or until the required working hours is fulfilled, the petitioner is responsible for the beneficiary not becoming a public charge. So if the male beneficiary is a public charge the woman petitioner would have to provide for him, not the other way around with child support. So if the guy has bad intentions (this is all hypothetical btw) then its kinda win win for him.

Touché... Hadn't thought of it like that. So even if we divorced and he had a green card, i would still have to provide for him because i sponsored him.

i will keep counting my lucky stars! (i could see my ex doing some #### like that).

Thanks for the explanation.

[Ray-J 2]

If there are concerns about divorce this early in the relationship (even hypothetical), then perhaps the relationship should be discussed between the two of you and evaluated on its own merits for success. After all, what's the point of filing a petition and spending all the money involved if there's any doubt of his true intentions?

[knocked up 1]

If there are concerns about divorce this early in the relationship (even hypothetical), then perhaps the relationship should be discussed between the two of you and evaluated on its own merits for success. After all, what's the point of filing a petition and spending all the money involved if there's any doubt of his true intentions?

No doubts here. I'm just trying to understand why the system works the way it does. I'm an impatient American used to a life of convenience, after all.