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Linh took her citizenship oath on March 3rd and received a jury summons today, March 30th.

At the oath ceremony the judge told the group about a juror in her court that she had given the oath to several years earlier. The summons is for state court so that won't be the case.

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Bad advise. :bonk:

She could end up with a court summons for failure to appear, and depending on the state, fine or imprisonment. I get a jury summons every two years, have served on one criminal jury, and just got summoned again for the week of April 11th.

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it would seem someone removed bob's post. :unsure:

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Post suggesting illegal action has been removed along with post quoting same. Acceptable parts of the removed post are returned below

I understand the process. I was commenting on the coincidence.

Why would you suggest that someone ignore a summons? It's generally pretty easy to request a delay or have a legit excuse. And many times you don't even have to report to the jury pool as they don't actually need all that are summoned. Then you are not at risk of a bench warrant being issued or the community service / fine for not responding.

If you get called, you go, likely spend part of a day waiting around and perhaps answer a few questions. In MA if you're picked you serve for one trial and that's it. The last time I was called, I got picked only to have the 2 sides settle on the morning of the 1st day. Once you've served your name goes back in the pool and maybe you get called again, maybe you don't. My dad got summoned once in his life. I think that my mom got one or two but never actually had to report for the jury pool.

I am aware that the compensation varies by state. Here your employer is required to pay you for the first 3 days of work missed and then the court pays you $50/day. It's part of the obligation of being a citizen. And if you're ever in the situation where a jury can impact your life, you may modify your thinking.

Given that you did the work to become a citizen, your response surprises me.

You may wish to read this article about what happens when people ignore a jury summons:

http://www.legalzoom...-really-happens

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Some Old Guy:

Bad advise. headbonk.gif

She could end up with a court summons for failure to appear, and depending on the state, fine or imprisonment. I get a jury summons every two years, have served on one criminal jury, and just got summoned again for the week of April 11th.

“...Isn't it splendid to think of all the things there are to find out about? It just makes me feel glad to be alive--it's such an interesting world. It wouldn't be half so interesting if we knew all about everything, would it? There'd be no scope for imagination then, would there?”

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Many years ago about 20 or so I had two constables come to my house and ask me to come with them. I had tossed my jury summons in the trash as I had done many times before. After they took me to the courthouse the Judge seemed a tad upset and threatened me with jail if I ignored the next jury summons that was handed to me by the clerk. I showed up. Since then I have been called 5 times and always show up. Usually I get sent away and asked to just call every weeknight after 6 for updated instructions. This has always been county court and once state court. It has always been for two weeks and then done. I get a letter sent to me that I had successfully completed my jury duty and with that I am free from having been called for two years.

Right now I am serving jury duty but as a Federal juror. They require 30 business days and that is 6 weeks. I am on week 3. They tried 4-5 months ago and I asked for a deferent as I had just gotten married and had wiped my savings out. I am a truck driver and can't just go in to work if not called to jury duty. They gave it and now I am serving. So far they have each Friday had me to call after 6 and it asks me to show up in Federal court at 9 on the next Monday morning but at the end it tells me to call the night before for updated instructions. I always call that Sunday evening and it tells me I am not needed and to just call that next Friday after 6. It is kind of annoying but I am glad that I have been able to work and the company has been good at working me and getting me home every weekend in case I have to go and serve.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Many years ago [...]
Good grief, si man.

One can get one's self struck (stricken? struckened?) from potential selection as a juror by indicating bias in favor of or against one lawyer's issues of interest during the selection process.

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Good grief, si man.

One can get one's self struck (stricken? struckened?) from potential selection as a juror by indicating bias in favor of or against one lawyer's issues of interest during the selection process.

I usually have gotten myself stricken from actually being on a jury by being honest about my opinions when asked and usually by the defense attorney. The District Attorney usually likes me. They usually strike me and I go home but I always have had to go ahead and stay as a potential juror and call everyday after 6 to be told to just call the next day. I have in the past worked a lot and since it was two weeks and can't work unless I am driving out of the area I just use that two weeks and treat it as a vacation and go fishing or Golf and many other things. You still have to show up the first day anyway to get to the point they will strike you and ask you to leave.

This time since it was Federal jury duty and it was for 6 weeks I wanted to try and get on a jury and get it over with and get back to work as I can't make money while home but on the road. Every week they just have been making me call the next Friday after 6 though so my company has been able to run me around and keep me in adjacent states and back home by the weekend. I am fine with this as I assumed like it was for the past jury duty in county and state that it would be a daily call and would have to be not making any money for 6 weeks. My wife is loving it also and has usually had plans for me such as this weekend I am supposed to plant two new rose bushes and some other stupid flowers she wants.

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In New York which is a very litigious state I have been called only a few times but only sat on a jury once.

In one court I just had to call an automated message number early in the morning several times and

each time the response was I wasn't called that day. That was the easiest, but took 3 weeks to

complete. The other time I wasn't called I had to show up in court and wait about 2 hours to be told

my services were not needed. That was over in a day, but required I had to take a day off from work.

It will vary from court to court how selection is handled. Years ago, government officials, police,

fireman and LAWYERS all got a pass but now they call pretty much everyone. This too may vary

from state to state.

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Just to clear something up . . . I would not advice anybody to ignore jury summons. On the contrary: I want you all to go and to serve!

What I stated in my previous post is that my wife has not served as a juror even once in 48 years, and that I, personally, do not plan on serving anytime soon, if ever. This is not illegal advice, it's a statement based on my personal situation, not more, not less.

If you wonder why I do not plan on serving: my work day is valued at about $1K. That's right, if I miss work for one day, my business, of which I'm a partner, will lose that much money. Hence, the $5 or so a day I would get as a juror wouldn't even pay for the gas to get to the courthouse.

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Just to clear something up . . . I would not advice anybody to ignore jury summons. On the contrary: I want you all to go and to serve!

What I stated in my previous post is that my wife has not served as a juror even once in 48 years, and that I, personally, do not plan on serving anytime soon, if ever. This is not illegal advice, it's a statement based on my personal situation, not more, not less.

If you wonder why I do not plan on serving: my work day is valued at about $1K. That's right, if I miss work for one day, my business, of which I'm a partner, will lose that much money. Hence, the $5 or so a day I would get as a juror wouldn't even pay for the gas to get to the courthouse.

You clearly don't comprehend how the American Judicial system works. If you ignore jury summons, it will catch up with you one day. It is a part of the social contract that you entered into by choosing to live in civilized society. You don't get to pick and choose, and despite what you may have heard or read, financial burden is not an excuse to ignore a summons. If you suggest to others that they should ignore a summons, you are subborning a crime.

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Just to clear something up . . . I would not advice anybody to ignore jury summons. On the contrary: I want you all to go and to serve!

What I stated in my previous post is that my wife has not served as a juror even once in 48 years, and that I, personally, do not plan on serving anytime soon, if ever. This is not illegal advice, it's a statement based on my personal situation, not more, not less.

If you wonder why I do not plan on serving: my work day is valued at about $1K. That's right, if I miss work for one day, my business, of which I'm a partner, will lose that much money. Hence, the $5 or so a day I would get as a juror wouldn't even pay for the gas to get to the courthouse.

You clearly don't comprehend how the American Judicial system works. If you ignore jury summons, it will catch up with you one day. It is a part of the social contract that you entered into by choosing to live in civilized society. You don't get to pick and choose, and despite what you may have heard or read, financial burden is not an excuse to ignore a summons. If you suggest to others that they should ignore a summons, you are subborning a crime.

Two points that need to be made here.

1. It is very convenient for Just Bob that his original post is now invisible. In fact, he did advise ignoring a jury summons and referred to those who do not as schmucks.

2. Conservatives always tell me that one can not expect an individual who spent a considerable amount of time in the U.S. as an illegal alien to be respectful of the American social contract. Maybe they were right?

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Two points that need to be made here.

1. It is very convenient for Just Bob that his original post is now invisible. In fact, he did advise ignoring a jury summons and referred to those who do not as schmucks.

2. Conservatives always tell me that one can not expect an individual who spent a considerable amount of time in the U.S. as an illegal alien to be respectful of the American social contract. Maybe they were right?

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