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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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The reason is usually because the applicant hasn't overcome the 'intent to immigrate' presumption.

Elder in-laws are really not considered to be strong evidence of ties, but what about your FIL? Is he alive? Does she have a house in her name? Any other kids apart from your wife? Money in the bank?

03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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All, I have bad news to share my MIL tried visitor visa twice and they rejected her both time. The lady told her that we had enough people from my side of the family and she did not needed to go there. My In-Laws had hired immigration agent that did all the paper works for them and in that he showed the reason that my MIL was going there to be with my wife and support her during the pregnancy. I did not see the comment here from Jojo92122 and now it's too late. Thanks Jojo and I should have told them before hand but got really busy here at work and forgot to tell them this main reason.

So, here I am again :( hope that VJ can come to my rescue.

Does the embassy keeps your previous file (etc. reason for visa....), what I am going with is that can I have both of them try now for tourist visa and not mention anything about her daughter's pregnancy. Also, is it up to you what embassy you want go for your interview or that is based on your resident location (state you reside in)? What other avenues that we have so they can see the birth of their grandchild? Thank you so much all for sharing your knowledge and experience. Love :help:

Hi all, we had handsome boy who is going to be six week young tomorrow. We really like to invite my in-laws here in States to visit grand baby. Since my Mother-In-Law(MIL) was rejected twice before for visitor/tourist visa here as you can see my comment above. So, is it OK if this time we tried for both of my in-laws to come here to see their grandson and visit their daughter and son-in-law? They also have other relatives that stays here in States if that helps any to convince Embassy that they are not coming here to stay. Also, what other supporting documents that I should get from them that shows that they will go back to their home country? Just FYI my MIL is school teacher in India and my FIL is retired from work. Thank you so much to all VJ members around the world to sharing their knowledge and experience.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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The reason is usually because the applicant hasn't overcome the 'intent to immigrate' presumption.

Elder in-laws are really not considered to be strong evidence of ties, but what about your FIL? Is he alive? Does she have a house in her name? Any other kids apart from your wife? Money in the bank?

Hi Sachinky, hope all is going well for you. Opening back up the case/thread :-). We are considering to try visitor/tourist visa for both of my in-laws this time. Hope this helps to convince Embassy that they are not coming here to reside after their official stay.

going back to your earlier question here yes my FIL has two houses on his name their. He is retired and getting pension from his job. He has just recently retired may be a year or so. He has one son and my wife. They have money in bank and we can show that also to Embassy.

What other evidence would help us to make this case strong? Thanks

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: India
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Hey,

Congratulations on the birth of your baby boy! :star:

Honestly, if your MIL was denied twice alone, then the chances of both of them together are quite slim. She needs to focus on HER ties, for example, her husband staying back is a strong tie, that she has another child, (any other grand kids?), any property in her name, cars, bank accounts, electricity bills, etc. She needs to say she is coming to see her new born grandson for the first time and visit her daughter and son-in-law, whom she hasn't seen in a while. Nothing about 'helping' or 'supporting' or 'providing' child-care. COs often assume that the elderly parent is coming in to basically provide free baby-sitting services.

Her elderly in-laws are not much of evidence of strong ties. Also, six months off from work just sounds wrong. If you can take 6 months off from work, do you really need that job? Are you really going to come back to it? Do you know ANYONE who'd be able to take 6 months off from any 'real' job?

Do you see what I am saying? This is how the CO looks at it. 4-5 weeks is much more normal, especially during the Christmas vacations when it is conceivable she'd have some time off as a school teacher.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to try. It's only $131 a pop. Good luck and keep us posted.

As a context to my previous post, here's a review of my experiences with the B2.

My mom and I had a B-2 denial in 1997. Despite overwhelming evidence. We have a house, two cars, entire family in India, bank accounts, her own successful business, tax returns, etc. I had a letter from my school that I was expected back in class at the end of the summer vacation on such and such date. When my mother asked, 'what if her old parents stood as guarantors, and signed a bond that said she would return,' the CO laughed and said, 'what if they die while you're in the U.S? Are we gonna be able to take them to court?' So, yeah, denied. Why? My father had a 10-year US visa and was in the States at that time and we wanted to join him for a vacation. You know, the touristy stuff. Disneyland. Statue of Liberty. Las Vegas.

Anyway, we ended up touring Europe that summer.

In 1999, we applied again for the B-2. Took exactly the same amount of evidence. Evidence of my mom's business, property deeds, etc. Including the passport that now had a U.K and Schegen visa and the fact that we came back from those trips. Approved after ONE question. 'Where is your husband?' 'In Calcutta for the summer. He has to assist his colleagues on a reasearch project.' (My dad was an assistant professor at a government college at that time.) My uncle who has had a B1 since the early 80s had no trouble securing B-2s for his kids (my two cousins) and his wife (my aunt who had visited the U.S. as a teenager). So the six of us came to the U.S. in 1999 and enjoyed our 4 week stay here.

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03/27/2009: Engaged in Ithaca, New York.
08/17/2009: Wedding in Calcutta, India.
09/29/2009: I-130 NOA1
01/25/2010: I-130 NOA2
03/23/2010: Case completed.
05/12/2010: CR-1 interview at Mumbai, India.
05/20/2010: US Entry, Chicago.
03/01/2012: ROC NOA1.
03/26/2012: Biometrics completed.
12/07/2012: 10 year card production ordered.

09/25/2013: N-400 NOA1

10/16/2013: Biometrics completed

12/03/2013: Interview

12/20/2013: Oath ceremony

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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Hey,

Congratulations on the birth of your baby boy! :star:

Honestly, if your MIL was denied twice alone, then the chances of both of them together are quite slim. She needs to focus on HER ties, for example, her husband staying back is a strong tie, that she has another child, (any other grand kids?), any property in her name, cars, bank accounts, electricity bills, etc. She needs to say she is coming to see her new born grandson for the first time and visit her daughter and son-in-law, whom she hasn't seen in a while. Nothing about 'helping' or 'supporting' or 'providing' child-care. COs often assume that the elderly parent is coming in to basically provide free baby-sitting services.

Her elderly in-laws are not much of evidence of strong ties. Also, six months off from work just sounds wrong. If you can take 6 months off from work, do you really need that job? Are you really going to come back to it? Do you know ANYONE who'd be able to take 6 months off from any 'real' job?

Do you see what I am saying? This is how the CO looks at it. 4-5 weeks is much more normal, especially during the Christmas vacations when it is conceivable she'd have some time off as a school teacher.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to try. It's only $131 a pop. Good luck and keep us posted.

As a context to my previous post, here's a review of my experiences with the B2.

My mom and I had a B-2 denial in 1997. Despite overwhelming evidence. We have a house, two cars, entire family in India, bank accounts, her own successful business, tax returns, etc. I had a letter from my school that I was expected back in class at the end of the summer vacation on such and such date. When my mother asked, 'what if her old parents stood as guarantors, and signed a bond that said she would return,' the CO laughed and said, 'what if they die while you're in the U.S? Are we gonna be able to take them to court?' So, yeah, denied. Why? My father had a 10-year US visa and was in the States at that time and we wanted to join him for a vacation. You know, the touristy stuff. Disneyland. Statue of Liberty. Las Vegas.

Anyway, we ended up touring Europe that summer.

In 1999, we applied again for the B-2. Took exactly the same amount of evidence. Evidence of my mom's business, property deeds, etc. Including the passport that now had a U.K and Schegen visa and the fact that we came back from those trips. Approved after ONE question. 'Where is your husband?' 'In Calcutta for the summer. He has to assist his colleagues on a research project.' (My dad was an assistant professor at a government college at that time.) My uncle who has had a B1 since the early 80s had no trouble securing B-2s for his kids (my two cousins) and his wife (my aunt who had visited the U.S. as a teenager). So the six of us came to the U.S. in 1999 and enjoyed our 4 week stay here.

Hi sachinky - thanks yes he is been fun and keeps us busy all the time now. So you don't think we should even consider applying visa for both instead of just her? Because, we really want them to come here and just check out some places (like you said statue of liberty, Disney...)in States and of course visit us. I see what you mean by taking vacation for six months instead of 4-5 weeks. Yes, we were thinking about to try around Christmas timezone. Interesting story about your visitor visa story. COs are very insensitive and they can only think from LAWs perspective but it's always the few bed apple that makes the whole basket bad (you know what I mean...just because one person did something wrong everyone else has to pay the price for it). Thank you for taking the time to reply on my post. Take care

 
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