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TBoneTX   45,309

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Admiral, & all:

The K-3 forum is a disaster. Probably 99.44% of the posts are transferred to other fora, and the others are from people who don't realize that the K-3 visa is no longer viable. This has been going on for weeks and weeks, perhaps for months and months.

How about decommissioning the K-3 main & case-reports fora and putting them under the CR-1 forum as subsidiary links? This would cut the Organizers' work, keep other posters from having to step in to correct misimpressions about the visa's viability, and in general serve the educational purposes of VJ more than does the current situation.

Si, man?

Edited to add: In the Guides, the K-3 is listed as "Option 2" for those who are married. This should also be dealt with.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Is it even possible to file a K3 anymore? I was under the impression it had been retired.

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TBoneTX   45,309

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The original questions remain, si man.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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pushbrk   12,898

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Not sure what the best solution is but both the Guide and the forum heading, at minimum could be updated to reflect the current facts on the ground. Retiring the forum may be a bridge too far as things DO change and could and should change tomorrow with regard to NVC and I-129F petitions for spouse.

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NigeriaorBust   4,087

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I had in my hand last night a notice of a K3 with a case number being sent on to the consulate this month so it isn't as dead as we think. The I130 was approved at the same time.

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

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I had in my hand last night a notice of a K3 with a case number being sent on to the consulate this month so it isn't as dead as we think. The I130 was approved at the same time.

Just what are the circumstances surrounding that case? If you mean you saw a notice from USCIS, saying the I-129F was being sent to the Consulate, that's meaningless. It goes from USCIS to NVC where it will be closed. If you saw a notice from NVC, saying NVC was sending the I-129F to the Consulate, THAT would be news.

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Just what are the circumstances surrounding that case? If you mean you saw a notice from USCIS, saying the I-129F was being sent to the Consulate, that's meaningless. It goes from USCIS to NVC where it will be closed. If you saw a notice from NVC, saying NVC was sending the I-129F to the Consulate, THAT would be news.

It was the NVC letter with the country specific case number saying the petition was being sent to the consulate. Both CSC notices of approval arrived about 2 weeks ago. One for the I130 and one for the I129F. The case is one where the couple married after a denied fiance visa.

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It was the NVC letter with the country specific case number saying the petition was being sent to the consulate. Both CSC notices of approval arrived about 2 weeks ago. One for the I130 and one for the I129F. The case is one where the couple married after a denied fiance visa.

Strange. This could be an anomaly or a signal of a new policy at NVC. We'll have to see. The couple is still probably better off pursuing the CR1 though. K3 is a ideal for some circumstances but hasn't saved more than a few weeks over an efficiently managed CR1 process, for several years.

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If a K3 is still viable then why retire it?

With rare exception, it hasn't been viable since 2/1/2010. If you don't know about this, read the K3 forum. No need to cover it all again here for the several hundredth time.

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It is viable so I am not as sure what to do. An easy fix to start is that I moved the IR-1 / CR-1 forum above the K-3 forum. Can we somehow combine and sub-categorize things?

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It is viable so I am not as sure what to do. An easy fix to start is that I moved the IR-1 / CR-1 forum above the K-3 forum. Can we somehow combine of sub-categorize things?

That's a start but people come to VJ with the K3 already in mind based on other sources. Not sure why you're saying the K3 is viable. If even 2% of the people who file an I-129F for a spouse will ever have an opportunity to have their spouse apply for a K3 visa, I might agree it's viable. The percentage is some small fraction of 1% though and the result of some freak accident we can't explain. Do you call that "viable".

The issue here is that the vast majority of threads in the K3 forum either are about why and how the K3 is not a viable option or completely off topic. Those of us in the know, are getting tired of explaining this over and over and over again to each newbie that comes in with a question about how to obtain a visa they, in reality are NOT going to obtain.

A minimal second step would be a bold pinned thread with the current NVC policy prominently featured and then lock the pinned thread.

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