Visitors Visa & Working Illegaly

[BokkieandGuapo 4]

Just to make sure you understand, I called your post retarded, not you as a person.

And that was not trying to be true, it was accusing others for something they might not do at all. It is an insult to everyone who came to the US for the right reasons, as opposed to you. I agree with the others here who replied to you as well. Like them, I too married a person and not the country... I'm sorry for you if your life sucked (in your opinion) where you came from, but I love my home country. I came here to be with my wife, not because life would be better. Sure, Hawaii is a little paradise, but it is paradise without any of my friends or relatives. The only two person I have here are my wife and my baby daughter and if they, for example, lived in the Philippines (I'm using this as you apparently didn't like it there), then I would follow them there too if I had to.

Then to mention, like "Mrs.Finland-USA" did, the health care, education, social services and all that. It was either free or just dirt cheap in my own country compared to the US. Sure, life is great over here in the US, especially here in Hawaii, but it was also great where I came from. I had a great job with a good income, a very nice home, nice car etc etc and I have sold all of that, and I had to say goodbye to friends, family, memories and so on, to go into the unknown. While I will not go into too much details, I lived the life over there and gave that all up to be with my wife. Eventually I arrived here with two suitcases, and two small boxes that I had shipped earlier, full of personal belongings. Other than that I had nothing anymore, while I basically had it all. Do you really think I would have given all of that up just to move to another country where I had to start on the bottom again while I was already on the top over there? Do you think I would do such a thing if I thought she didn't love me? As a matter of fact, the simple fact that my wife did not speak my language (while I do speak English) and the hard immigration laws in my country (since a LOT of people want to go there) were the biggest reasons why we chose to live in the US instead (we did look at options to live in my country at first). And believe me, if I ever break up with my wife, which I certainly do not hope for, then I would not stay here but I would fly back to my old country on one of the first available flights (where I would have to start all over once again). It might be hard for you to understand, but not everyone is disappointed in how life was in their own country, and certainly not everyone comes to the US just to be able to live in the US. You must really have the wrong priorities.

If you tried to be 'true' with what you said in your post, you wouldn't even be in the US through marriage as you apparently are using your spouse for a different goal than just to be with him/her. As a matter of fact, if you stand by what you posted, then this is certainly not being 'true' as it would mean that you have been lying to not only your spouse (unless he/she is in it) but also to the immigration officers. That is NOT called 'trying to be true'.

And then you thinking that anything we say here is not true, that is just a plain insult to any of us who came here for the one they love.

Hear Hear, You need to think about how your posts are going to affect other people before posting

[Otto 83]

** Am going to ask that we all keep our posts/responses limited to the actual topic minus the judgmental remarks.

If you think this might be directed at you, it probably is. Everyone else, thank you for participating.

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[Bobby+Umit 161]

So in that case are you telling me, if someone was visiting me and was planning to live with me for 35 days, now 35 days are up and they don't want to leave I cannot make them leave?

You are wrong if you are in a rental property, you can let your management know and they would be more than happy to serve them a notice.

If you live in a house then you can call cops on them for trespassing on your private property and you want them to be removed.

No - I am not telling you anything - I said you should check your local laws regarding this - the examples I posted are based on some laws out there - not necessarily the ones that are where you live.

Please read the links - they mention the very thing you just posted.

[belinda63 3,038]

I totally understand what you are saying about squatter's rights and eviction process and all of that and I am not disagreeing with you in any way. Eviction is a civil process and if their stuff was on the porch and the locks changed the police would not break into the house for them to gain entrance. Or if the utilities were turned off and the owners "on vacation" the police would not track down the owners and force them to have the utilities re-connected. None of these things are a crime unless they some how brought in endangering the welfare of a minor charges.

For the unwanted guest to prove they have squatter's rights when or if they are locked out, the unwanted persons would have to file in civil court and have a civil proceeding. Calling the police is easy, filing a civil case is not. Calling the police is immediate, civil court is not. What will the "unwanted guest" do with themselves and their baby while they were waiting months for the court date?

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Your post is absolutely outrageous!

I'd be on the first flight home if I could. Pretty conceited of you to think that everybody leaves their home and marry some American to become a citizen. I'd never give up my citizenship, and should a divorce happen or should something go wrong with our marriage, I'd definitely not stay here but go home.

There are better places in this world.

Can't help but hijack this.

Once San Diego and not Regensburg becomes "home," you won't be flying back home, you'll be staying home.

[rika60607 215]

I am afraid this kind of unwanted guests will simply break back into the house

who's gonna call police on them while the owner is "on vacation" and if someone did, wouldn't the outcome of police visiting be the same?

For the unwanted guest to prove they have squatter's rights when or if they are locked out, the unwanted persons would have to file in civil court and have a civil proceeding. Calling the police is easy, filing a civil case is not. Calling the police is immediate, civil court is not. What will the "unwanted guest" do with themselves and their baby while they were waiting months for the court date?

[Boiler 45,519]

I am afraid this kind of unwanted guests will simply break back into the house

who's gonna call police on them while the owner is "on vacation" and if someone did, wouldn't the outcome of police visiting be the same?

We have a golden Retriever that makes a real racket if anybody come near, but she only barks when there is someone with her in the house.

ADT?

Shotgun?

[Harsh_77 718]

I am afraid this kind of unwanted guests will simply break back into the house

who's gonna call police on them while the owner is "on vacation" and if someone did, wouldn't the outcome of police visiting be the same?

If they break-in than the case would be a criminal case, they have no right to be in that home, they are not owner or partners on documents there is no joint ownership.

If they break it the guy should be hauled to jail.

[rika60607 215]

May be. But they will then say - we lived here, all our stuff is here (brought in from the porch) and the owner tried to lock us out so we had to break in. Or else how would we take care of our poor baby? What would policemen do? Judging by what they have done so far - just walk away after writing a citation for the owner for changing the locks.

An inventive solution is needed here.

If they break-in than the case would be a criminal case, they have no right to be in that home, they are not owner or partners on documents there is no joint ownership.

If they break it the guy should be hauled to jail.

[Myopia 93]

I am sorry, I skipped some info.

My friend is here with his wife. She was 8th month pregnant when they arrived to the USA.

Arround new years she delivered a baby.

Now the baby is receiving food cupons and free medical care. They owe a huge amount

of money to the hospitals that were taking care of the baby and the baby's mother.

I was wondering if that would be a burden for them go get their stay extended?

Depending on how long they have been here, they may be able to get emergency medic-aid retroactively to cover the cost of the birth. I am not sure if that is even possible at this time. It used to be.

They won't be able to get any benefits bar the food stamps that they get at this time.

[Boiler 45,519]

The OP is from a VWP Country but it sounds like they entered on the B, so less than 6 months and the expenses were incurred one month after entering.

Edited March 25, 2011 by Boiler

[Myopia 93]

The OP is from a VWP Country but it sounds like they entered on the B, so less than 6 months and the expenses were incurred one month after entering.

They may not be from a VWP country as the OP said that they were from the Europe and for some reason I got the impression that they were from one of the European nations that have not joined the EU yet.

They have been here for three months so they may be able to get emergency medicaid to pay for the hospital bills. Medicaid is retroactive( or at least used to be).

Its clear based on the majority of comments that this is definitely an Immigration forum as most of the advice has been really terrible.

You cant change locks, turn off heat in NYC, turn off utilities, go on vacation and turn off utilities. No matter what the immigration situation of the unwanted guests, you cant commit crimes to get them out. If the OP takes any of that advice, you can bet NYPD will be hauling him to the clink.

He needs to go to housing court and get an eviction. She owns the home so there is no landlord to complain to. She has to do this herself and it will be successful as long as she does things by the book. Those "guests" could go and get an order of protection from the OP because of the advised harassment and then guess who would be sleeping in a hotel?.

NYPD do not care about immigration status unless a crime has been committed and working without authorization is not their jurisdiction. Have you seen the crowds of men waiting to be picked up for work under the Elevated tracks?

PS. Turning the heat down in the kind of cold that NYC has had in the last three months? Really?

Edited March 26, 2011 by Myopia

[villaspurs 65]

The OP said they turned the heat down to 67, which is not unreasonable. I have a baby and we keep the house at 68--my parents keep it at 66. It depends on the house, but that's not a freezing temperature.

[Harsh_77 718]

I am afraid this kind of unwanted guests will simply break back into the house

who's gonna call police on them while the owner is "on vacation" and if someone did, wouldn't the outcome of police visiting be the same?

First they will have to prove that they are living at the address.

Second they will have to prove that their stuff is in the locked house...

Third even if they can prove it their stuff is in the house, police cannot just break into someones(op's) property, remember if they need to enter legally they need something called warrant...

[Myopia 93]

The OP said they turned the heat down to 67, which is not unreasonable. I have a baby and we keep the house at 68--my parents keep it at 66. It depends on the house, but that's not a freezing temperature.

It is unreasonable in NYC.