Just filed for removal of conditional GC and lost GC

[Chris Me lil D 17]

Hi guys, I tried to find previous topics with this problem, and found some but not fully to what I'd like to know. My friend's husband just filed for removal of conditions of his green card today and tonight he lost his wallet. He's going to call the Immigrations on Monday and report the GC lost/stolen, but what are his options now? Does he need to obtain another conditional GC since he just applied today for permanent one? Are there any fees he'd have to pay to the Immigrations for lost/stolen GC? Has anybody been in this situation recently? Thanks in advance for your responses and help as usual

[Chris Me lil D 17]

Hi guys, I tried to find previous topics with this problem, and found some but not fully to what I'd like to know. My friend's husband just filed for removal of conditions of his green card today and tonight he lost his wallet. He's going to call the Immigrations on Monday and report the GC lost/stolen, but what are his options now? Does he need to obtain another conditional GC since he just applied today for permanent one? Are there any fees he'd have to pay to the Immigrations for lost/stolen GC? Has anybody been in this situation recently? Thanks in advance for your responses and help as usual

Seriously? No one knows?

[Glyn and Kathy 288]

Looks like he will need to apply to replace it. That's what this looks like anyways http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d0a33a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d0a33a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

Hope that's what you need.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

A Green Card in the wallet?

And now it's lost?

Couldn't he think of a less secure place to put it?

Anyway, normally he would have to file an I-90 for a cool $450.00. It would take about 6 months for the new card to arrive.

Luckily for him, he already filed his I-751 with the copies of his Green Card, so his timing was as perfect as it gets.

Suggest to your husband's friend to imagine every single morning he gets out of bed that replacing the Green Card does not cost $450 but $10,000.00. He should store it where he would store $10,000.00 in cash, a loaded gun, and an irreplaceable heirloom.

My two Green Cards lived a protected life in a locked firesafe inside a locked Steelcase steel file cabinet all their life. I only took them out when I needed to and even the the card was transported separately from the wallet.

If he follows this advice, he will not ever lose his Green Card again.

[Math Man 6]

A Green Card in the wallet?

And now it's lost?

Couldn't he think of a less secure place to put it?

Anyway, normally he would have to file an I-90 for a cool $450.00. It would take about 6 months for the new card to arrive.

Luckily for him, he already filed his I-751 with the copies of his Green Card, so his timing was as perfect as it gets.

Suggest to your husband's friend to imagine every single morning he gets out of bed that replacing the Green Card does not cost $450 but $10,000.00. He should store it where he would store $10,000.00 in cash, a loaded gun, and an irreplaceable heirloom.

My two Green Cards lived a protected life in a locked firesafe inside a locked Steelcase steel file cabinet all their life. I only took them out when I needed to and even the the card was transported separately from the wallet.

If he follows this advice, he will not ever lose his Green Card again.

Hi Bob,

Your post brings up a point I've been curious about. My wife always carries her (now expired) green card with her, along with the NOA1 for the I-751 that extends her status for one year. She does this in case she's stopped by the police, so that she can prove she's here legally. On the one hand this seems like a good idea, but at the same time I've always wondered whether a police officer would really care about an immigrant's legal status--that seems outside their jurisdiction.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Police officers have no right to inquire about her immigration status. Immigration is a federal, not a state issue. FBI, CIA, CBP and ICE are federal officers and thus are authorized to ask her, so if she has been arrested for a crime and doesn't carry her card on her, they theoretically can fine her $150.00, but I never heard this happen to anyone, ever. Still she could go through this 3 times and still be ahead by not having to wait 6 months for a new card to arrive.

I would just carry a copy of the card instead. I personally never did that, and I have never been asked for or about my Green Card or status in now almost 20 years, and I live in Southern California and have driven to Escondido and San Diego many times.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Actually, it depends on where you live. In Georgia now, if you are stopped by the police for anything, they are allowed to ask you about your legal status. If they believe you are in the country illegally or cannot prove your legal immigration status they have the right to detain you while they contact ICE or you arrange to get the proof to them. So, this is a federal project that now allows for State jurisdictions to come in. Check and see what your State allows. While she is supposed to carry her green card with her she may be able to get by carrying photocopies of both the green card and the extension letter. At the very least, have photocopies of both safely at home, wherever the original card is kept.

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2011/mar/07/georgia-association-latino-elected-officials/immigration-bill-foes-label-legislation-arizona-co/

Edited March 21, 2011 by Kathryn41

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Actually, it depends on where you live. In Georgia now, if you are stopped by the police for anything, they are allowed to ask you about your legal status. If they believe you are in the country illegally or cannot prove your legal immigration status they have the right to detain you while they contact ICE or you arrange to get the proof to them. So, this is a federal project that now allows for State jurisdictions to come in. Check and see what your State allows. While she is supposed to carry her green card with her she may be able to get by carrying photocopies of both the green card and the extension letter. At the very least, have photocopies of both safely at home, wherever the original card is kept.

http://www.politifac...ion-arizona-co/

Kathryn,

thanks for the link.

All SB-1070-like state laws have so far been challenged on their constitutionality. I read Georgia's HB 87 bill for the first time and it requires " that officers who have "probable cause to believe that a suspect has committed a criminal offense" would be authorized to verify that suspect’s immigration status.

That's pretty heavy stuff to begin with.

Yet, Georgia issues driver's licenses for non-US citizens only for a certain time period, so that alone gives the police officer a clue about whether or not the driver he (or she) just pulled over is a USC or not.

I expect more Arizona/Georgia style laws to be introduced in the near future; on the same token everyone with some kind of competence in constitutional law states that those laws will be struck down by the US Supreme Court eventually based on the Supremacy Clause.

[TBoneTX 45,267]

Even if some police ask you, you can politely decline to answer. One good response is "Officer, I'd personally love to answer your questions, but if I do, my attorney will KILL me. I apologize. Am I free to go now?"

[rallybug 17]

Kathryn,

thanks for the link.

All SB-1070-like state laws have so far been challenged on their constitutionality. I read Georgia's HB 87 bill for the first time and it requires " that officers who have "probable cause to believe that a suspect has committed a criminal offense" would be authorized to verify that suspect's immigration status.

That's pretty heavy stuff to begin with.

Yet, Georgia issues driver's licenses for non-US citizens only for a certain time period, so that alone gives the police officer a clue about whether or not the driver he (or she) just pulled over is a USC or not.

I expect more Arizona/Georgia style laws to be introduced in the near future; on the same token everyone with some kind of competence in constitutional law states that those laws will be struck down by the US Supreme Court eventually based on the Supremacy Clause.

But, in the mean time, it may be wise to carry either the GC or a copy in those states that have enacted such laws?

[Chris Me lil D 17]

A Green Card in the wallet?

And now it's lost?

Couldn't he think of a less secure place to put it?

The only reason he had the GC with him that day was because he visited his lawyer to file paperwork for ROC. Anyway, thanks all for the answers.

For those who are concerned, his lawyer told him he doesn't have to call the immigrations and do not have to file for a new one, since he just filed for ROC the previous day and he's all set.

[Kar_98 10]

Police officers have no right to inquire about her immigration status. Immigration is a federal, not a state issue. FBI, CIA, CBP and ICE are federal officers and thus are authorized to ask her, so if she has been arrested for a crime and doesn't carry her card on her, they theoretically can fine her $150.00

Right. But $150 fine is less than $450 for a lost one

[jkb11 26]

I figured I might add something to the conversation:

(e) Personal possession of registration or receipt card; penalties

Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him pursuant to subsection (d) of this section. Any alien who fails to comply with the provisions of this subsection shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both.

8 U.S.C. § 1304 : US Code - Section 1304: Forms for registration and fingerprinting

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/8/12/II/VII/1304

Doesn't that mean that the GC holder should carry their GC with them at all times?

Best regards!

[sweetpiano 0]

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[w8inglongtime 29]

Here's my personal take on carrying the greencard. I think after showing the card to your employer and getting hired, and showing it at the DMV and getting a driver's license, the greencard doesn't serve any purpose in your day to day life. Your drivers license is all the ID you need. The whole thing with the Arizona law won't matter if you have a drivers license when pulled over. The police 100% of the time will ask for DL and proof of insurance and not greencard. The suspicion of being illegal comes into play when you have no license or any government issued ID. Then the next step will be to prove you are in the country legally. Keep your DL in your wallet and keep the greencard in a safe at home. It cost about $25.00 for a DL and a whopping $450 for a replacement green card.