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Hello there,

I'm at a bit of a loss to understand how the USCIS can be so unhelpful in London. Here was a question I posted (my situation does sound complicated, but surely someone at immigration should be able to help me)...

Dear Visa Officer,

I am a US and Dutch citizen (I hold both a U.S and

Dutch passport) and I have been living in the U.K for

the past 12 months (I am able to legally reside here

becuase I am a citizen of the European Union). I also

lived in Northern Ireland for 3 years when I was a

child.

My wife is a British citizen, but we wish to move to

the U.S. Is it possible for me to file a petition

I-130 for my wife here at the embassy in London?

Thank you for your help.

Now here is their response...

"Please submit the I-130 to this office with an international bank draft

or

U.S.

money order for $190.00. We won't be able to make a determination

until you

send the documentation to this office. "

Is this standard, or is London particularly difficult???

I have no idea how I am to determine whether I'm even able to apply for DCF in London.

Please send your advice.

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Hello there,

I'm at a bit of a loss to understand how the USCIS can be so unhelpful in London. Here was a question I posted (my situation does sound complicated, but surely someone at immigration should be able to help me)...

Dear Visa Officer,

I am a US and Dutch citizen (I hold both a U.S and

Dutch passport) and I have been living in the U.K for

the past 12 months (I am able to legally reside here

becuase I am a citizen of the European Union). I also

lived in Northern Ireland for 3 years when I was a

child.

My wife is a British citizen, but we wish to move to

the U.S. Is it possible for me to file a petition

I-130 for my wife here at the embassy in London?

Thank you for your help.

Now here is their response...

"Please submit the I-130 to this office with an international bank draft

or

U.S.

money order for $190.00. We won't be able to make a determination

until you

send the documentation to this office. "

Is this standard, or is London particularly difficult???

I have no idea how I am to determine whether I'm even able to apply for DCF in London.

Please send your advice.

Well, I must admit its not the friendliest of replies! :( However, I think this is a standard reply sent to all potential visa applicants. They don't know anything about you or your wife yet(even though you have e-mailed them), so in order to determine whether you can do DCF or not, they need some basic details from you as the sponsor about your wife. Once they have the I-130, they can advise you whether you can do DCF or whether you need to file back in the US(you'll have to pay the fee of $190 first so that tey will process the I-130). I beleive that you may not be able to apply trough DCF as you haven't lived in the UK for long, but perhaps someone else could confirm this. According to someone else I have been talking to on here, they were told by the London Embassy that they would have to be in the UK for more than 2 years to do DCF. I went through DCF myself, but that was because my wife has been living in the for 4 years before she met me(she is the USC).

Hope this helps and good luck!

Anthony & Caitlin's Visa Journey

======================

Oct 2001 - Met on an internet dating website

10/21/2001 - Met in person for the first time in London!

Nov 2002 - Anthony & Caitlin get engaged in London!

03/20/2003 - Anthony & Caitlin get married in the UK :)

04/30/2005 - I-130 completed and sent off

05/03/2005 - Forgot to send it Marriage certificate, sent by post!

05/09/2005 - London Embassy notifies us of receipt of I-130

06/02/2005 - Pkt 3 received

08/02/2005 - Pkt 3 completed and sent back

09/30/2005 - Pkt 4 received - Interview date set for 4th November

09/09/2005 - First child is born! Baby girl named Brianna :)

Sept 2005 - Went to get up-to-date TD and MMR shots at local doctors

10/17/2005 - Medical exam in London

11/04/2005 - Interview at London Embassy - GOT THE VISA!!

04/30/2006 - First trip back to the States since getting visa - MRIV in passport stamped!

05/09/2006 - Flew back to the UK to complete sale of apartment

05/17/2006 - Received 'Welcome to the United States' letter

05/30/2006 - Green Card arrives in mail!! - Waiting for SSN now

07/10/2006 - The big move to Ohio!!

07/11/2006 - SSN doesn't arrive in mail, Anthony applies in person

07/18/2006 - Received SSN!!

08/22/2006 - Anthony gets his Ohio drivers license - journey is finally complete!!

Read my POE Experience in Newark

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Does sound typical of the office, but I guess they do need more information to determine who qualifies and they probably have gotten in trouble in the past of telling people over the phone or email that they qualify or don't qualify when they actually do. I mean you could talk to a dozen people and you will probably get 12 different answers.

As for your qualification. I would assume you do. Similar situation with me although I have Irish/American passports. As proof of residency I think I sent them my NI card (not positive on that though) and a copy of my Irish Passport. No questions or request for further info. I think I was living in the UK for about 19 months at that time. But I have heard there is a year benchmark, but I have also heard that isn't really that true either. I would give it a try, if not they will just send it through the normal process. But I am guessing you alright.

Cheers

Kevin

26/02/2005 Married in London to South African with UK Residency

28/02/2005 Sent off I-130 to London Consular

08/03/2005 Charge posted on Credit Card

14/03/2005 Sent off DS-230

15/03/2005 NOA of I-130

24/03/2005 Received Packet 3

18/04/2005 Sent in Form 169 (notice of readiness)

10/05/2005 Received Packet 4

06/06/2005 Medical at 10:00am in London

15/06/2005 Interview at 9:00 am (108 Days) -Approved

16/06/2005 Noon - Recieved Papers and Visa from Embassy

21/08/2005 Wife entered US on green Card

Conditions Removed +/- 1 year

??/06/2007 Submitted I-751

??/07/2007 Biometrics

02/04/2008 Application transferred from TSC to VSC

01/July/2008 Card Production ordered

N-400 process-3 months & 8 days

16/June/2008 Sent in packet of N-400

18/June/2008 NOA Priority date

20/June/2008 Check cashed

26/June/2008 NOA recieved

12/July/2008 Biometrics

08/Sept/2008 Interview- passed

24/Sept/2008 Oath (Cancelled due to Hurricane Ike)

29/Oct/2008 Oath & Passport Application (not expedited)

07/Nov/2008 Passport Received - Done with the Process

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Is this standard, or is London particularly difficult???

It's totally standard for London.

I do suggest that you detach from 'helpful'/unhelpful--they just are how they are & it is your job to learn how to use their service <shrug>. Which I realize doesn't sound so great, but there you go. You run a higher risk asking them for any immigration advice than you do by checking past users of their service.

Your job is to put together an I-130 packet with compelling evidence that you are/have been genuinely resident in the UK for as long as you have been. Try to not focus on what you *don't* have (NI#) but what evidence you *do* have that you've really been living there and not just made a temporary stop. It should not hurt you to inform them that you are a dual national and able to live visa-free with your EU passport.

Each case is individual, and while London may have some published guidelines, each submission will be looked at for its own merits as to 'accepted' or not..

Submit that with your fee and the other required documents, photos etc and wait a couple of weeks. Usually you will know within that time if your case is accepted (you'll get a postcard saying so) or not (your packet and I believe your payment will be returned to you with instruction to file in the US).

Once the I-130 is underway, you are free to leave the UK and your spouse can continue with the visa application. You can be settling housing and US employment during the 2-3 months that I *think* it is currently taking for an Immigrant Visa interview.

Since your wife will need all the documents for that appointment no matter which way you file the I-130, she can start ordering her police and military records now, and gathering copies of her long form birth certifiate, previous marriage/divorce docs etc.

Now That You Are A Permanent Resident

How Do I Remove The Conditions On Permanent Residence Based On Marriage?

Welcome to the United States: A Guide For New Immigrants

Yes, even this last one.. stuff in there that not even your USC knows.....

Here are more links that I love:

Arriving in America, The POE Drill

Dual Citizenship FAQ

Other Fora I Post To:

alt.visa.us.marriage-based http://britishexpats.com/ and www.***removed***.com

censored link = *family based immigration* website

Inertia. Is that the Greek god of 'can't be bothered'?

Met, married, immigrated, naturalized.

I-130 filed Aug02

USC Jul06

No Deje Piedras Sobre El Pavimento!

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I didnt actualy think that email was UNhelpful??

send the form & fee and find out, but you will be applying as a USC so do you think they will process you at the embassy as your status is through your europeon passport.............it will be very interesting to see, Good Luck :thumbs:

Amanda-England (Yorkshire)- Mark-USA(Michigan)

April/04/2005- Visa journey began!!

We did both K3 & CR1 visa's, got both!!- I returned to England for my CR1 interview after first arriving on a K3 visa!!

May/25th 2006- Green card arrives in the mail................YAY!!

19th June 2006 I Had to go to the Social Security Office to get my number, the DS-230 didnt work for me!!

26-June-2006- Social Security# arrived in the mail....YAY!!

Feb 2008 lift conditions <<<reminder to self!!<<<< went to England for a visit instead, no rush right, 90 days is a long time,LOL

Removing Conditions Begins

Mailed I-751 April 12th 2008

signed for @ NSC April 16th

NOA date April 16th

Conditional GC expired May 5th 2008

Biometrics Detroit May 10th 2008

10 year Green card ordered August 20th 2008

Citizenship any time from feb 2009

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I am not entirely sure that it was an unhelpful email, I have to agree with someone who said that they can not give much information in case they don't give the accurate one. As meauxna mentioned, I believe each case gets looked at individually and not under a set of rules where if you do not comply with one of them, then you will get denied!

I have dual nationality as well, and I had just been leaving in the UK 2 years when we applied. We had only been married for over 6 months and I had had my Limited Leave to Remain probably for only 5 months.

I didn't have a clue when I started, and then I found this site which helped a lot to understand what was happening.

I think you should try and send your I130 and hope for the best. You will never know what is in store for you, and you will probably find that they can be nice and helpful sometimes!

Wish you the best of luck!

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