Koch Bros.mount cut-and-paste attack on regional climate initiatives

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Carbon offsets will never be mandatory. If a company wants to do it voluntarily that is great. Free markets in action. As long as no one is forced to do it by law I am fine with it.

And as long as that profit center for the financial sector keeps growing in a robust manner, Wall Street will be fine with it, too. Just wait until the growth curve flattens - if it even takes that long - and Wall Street will be in the halls of Congress to lobby for mandatory participation in the carbon market. If history is any indication, Congress will deliver. And it won't matter which party holds the key. Rather than paying higher energy prices due to taxes, you will be paying higher energy prices due to Wall Street profits. Either way, you're paying.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

And as long as that profit center for the financial sector keeps growing in a robust manner, Wall Street will be fine with it, too. Just wait until the growth curve flattens - if it even takes that long - and Wall Street will be in the halls of Congress to lobby for mandatory participation in the carbon market. If history is any indication, Congress will deliver. And it won't matter which party holds the key. Rather than paying higher energy prices due to taxes, you will be paying higher energy prices due to Wall Street profits. Either way, you're paying.

Nope, because it would kill business that would be effected by the taxes. Those business and the people effected by the tax will not go for it. Note the dem senator from W.Virginia and how he came out against cap and trade because of his coal lobby.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Nope, because it would kill business that would be effected by the taxes. Those business and the people effected by the tax will not go for it. Note the dem senator from W.Virginia and how he came out against cap and trade because of his coal lobby.

Since when has Wall Street given a flying ** about any business but it's own? W. Virgina? Are you for real? Wall Street will roll it up and smoke it during cocktail hour. What Wall Street wants, Wall Street gets. With Republicans gaining control, it has the best shot. Mark my words, cap and trade is not dead. Wall Street will get this business.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Since when has Wall Street given a flying ** about any business but it's own? W. Virgina? Are you for real? Wall Street will roll it up and smoke it during cocktail hour. What Wall Street wants, Wall Street gets. With Republicans gaining control, it has the best shot. Mark my words, cap and trade is not dead. Wall Street will get this business.

Yep. Speculation is what is spiking oil prices, not supply or demand.

[JohnSmith2007 353]

Since when has Wall Street given a flying ** about any business but it's own? W. Virgina? Are you for real? Wall Street will roll it up and smoke it during cocktail hour. What Wall Street wants, Wall Street gets. With Republicans gaining control, it has the best shot. Mark my words, cap and trade is not dead. Wall Street will get this business.

As long as there are Senators in states that would be effected then we will not get cap and trade. It is the very reason we don't have it now. The politicians in those states will not allow it. It will not be much longer and the hysteria over GW will fade and the reasons for carbon trading will go away. With that the trade of carbon will be as useless as a buggy whip company is today. GW is just a flash in the pan.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

As long as there are Senators in states that would be effected then we will not get cap and trade.

If the Senators don't deliver, they will be replaced. It happened before, it will happen again. Do you still not see who's running the show here?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

If the Senators don't deliver, they will be replaced. It happened before, it will happen again. Do you still not see who's running the show here?

Herr Soros?