k1_129f denied

[TwoCats 55]

It seems to me that somewhere, some lines got crossed.

This is a previous post from the OP:

http://www.visajourn...70#entry4233670

It doesn't appear that this issue was ever resolved.

They got a letter from NVC that claimed they were applying for a K3.

It looks like, based on the result, that the embassy /still/ thinks this is the case.

Edited March 15, 2011 by TwoCats

[thelastpetitioner 218]

It seems to me that somewhere, some lines got crossed.

This is a previous post from the OP:

http://www.visajourn...70#entry4233670

It doesn't appear that this issue was ever resolved.

They got a letter from NVC that claimed they were applying for a K3.

It looks like, based on the result, that the embassy /still/ thinks this is the case.

even IF they were applying for a k-3 ,the officer didnt find the relationship bona fide,so there must be something wrong with the evidence they had.

out of curiosity op,did you ever call your fiance your husband or hubs or hubby in the evidence of relationship you submitted?

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

It seems to me that somewhere, some lines got crossed.

This is a previous post from the OP:

http://www.visajourn...70#entry4233670

It doesn't appear that this issue was ever resolved.

They got a letter from NVC that claimed they were applying for a K3.

It looks like, based on the result, that the embassy /still/ thinks this is the case.

She said they denied because they thought the relationship was a sham for immigration purposes. It doesn't sound like it was a K1/K3 mixup. If that were the case then they would have denied for lack of a marriage certificate.

[TwoCats 55]

Just thought I'd share the previous post, since the issue of married vs. unmarried has come up already in this thread. I'm not sure how much relevance it has, but it just appears that the OP has had issues already with it.

*shrug*

[nancy garcia 0]

Yesterday, I received an e-mail from Algeria's embassy saying that " my spouse case has been carefully reviewed by a consular officer, as a result it was determined that my husband relation with me it seems to be for immigration purpose and my case will be return sometime this week to USCIS via NATIONAL VISA CENTER.Can someone here have been in this same situation and can give me any advice about it? what to do to stop embassy in returning my case to USA, and if my case got returned, what would be my next step? Thanks so much for all of your concerns and answers to this matter

(spouse and husband are the words that embassy in algiers used in the e-mail they sent to me.I filed petition visa for k1-I129f which got denied. I have so much proof since 2008. unfortunately, I went to visit my fiancee for the first time last year,and stayed there with him for 28 days. I wish with all my heart to go again, but my economical situation right now is limited.)I also sent a letter to congress and spoke to uscis and it seems the only thing i can do now ,is wait and keep waiting.

Edited March 15, 2011 by nancy garcia

[katiemanny 64]

Its seems to me that the OP applied for I-129F, and they were denied due to the IO believing its for immigration purpose and she said she only went one time to visit her fiance. I have a friend that were denied at her interview horribly because she went to see her fiance only one time, each got interviewed for a hour, visa was denied cause IO thought it was fraudulent.

Edited March 15, 2011 by katiemanny

[slider100 8]

I am sorry, I hope things work out for you!

KnR aka slider100

[amykathleen2005 441]

Maybe they were confused and that is the cause of the denial.

[Penguin_ie 5,994]

Maybe they were confused and that is the cause of the denial.

Normally I'd say that is rediculous, but the OPs previous post also refers to spouse, so it is a possibility.

[DasBoot 7]

Its seems to me that the OP applied for I-129F, and they were denied due to the IO believing its for immigration purpose and she said she only went one time to visit her fiance. I have a friend that were denied at her interview horribly because she went to see her fiance only one time, each got interviewed for a hour, visa was denied cause IO thought it was fraudulent.

This is worry some. I didn't realize you could be denied for only visiting your fiance only once. It's not that easy to visit your fiance if they live on the other side of the world. How common is this requirement? Does it vary from IO to IO? Do people usually visit multiple times? Have people who visited only once generally get denied?

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

This is worry some. I didn't realize you could be denied for only visiting your fiance only once. It's not that easy to visit your fiance if they live on the other side of the world. How common is this requirement? Does it vary from IO to IO? Do people usually visit multiple times? Have people who visited only once generally get denied?

It depends on the country, but yes, in some countries making only one trip has been cited as a reason for denying a visa. This is especially true if there are cultural or traditional requirements that a relationship is expected to conform to. For example, some countries have a traditional engagement ceremony that might takes weeks or months to plan. Skipping this ceremony, or having a rushed ceremony on the first and only trip will often result in the visa being denied.

In high fraud countries the consular officers will also look for signs that the petitioner and beneficiary have only done the bare minimum they think is required in order to get the petition and visa approved. Getting a petition approved only requires having met, face-to-face, one time in the past two years. This, along with other circumstances, is enough to deny a visa.

[KittyPollitt 284]

Nancy, I am so sorry this has happened to you. Unfortunately, there is no shortage of denial cases in the Middle East and North Africa forum, and I would suggest you skim through what people have done after denial for some good, regional specific advice. There is an entire thread pinned at the top of MENA regarding returned petitions, and the process that follows them, here: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/3896-returning-petitions-to-the-united-states-via-221g/

May I suggest that you send the consulate an email and ask them if they extended the expiration of the petition before sending it to the US. If they did not, there is a very good chance that it will expire before it reaches review. You should still, however, go over your fiance's interview experience in detail, to attempt to figure out exactly what brought them to the conclusion that your relationship is not valid. Go over every question and answer, because at review, the only way to refute the consulate's decision is to present new evidence that is contrary to their line of reasoning.

It is not impossible to overcome this denial. I have seen it happen first hand, in other denied K1 cases. The chances of a review actually happening are fairly slim, though, and if the petition expires, the best remedy is to marry your fiance in Algeria, and file a CR-1 petition.

Best wishes,

Sarah

[pushbrk 12,975]

This is worry some. I didn't realize you could be denied for only visiting your fiance only once. It's not that easy to visit your fiance if they live on the other side of the world. How common is this requirement? Does it vary from IO to IO? Do people usually visit multiple times? Have people who visited only once generally get denied?

Jim has already given a great reply to your concern. What I would add as a point of clarification is, as Jim said, visiting only once has been cited as....A....reason for denial. It is seldom the ONLY reason for denial. A more accurate statement would be that a single visit was cited as one of several reasons the Consular Officer concluded the relationship was for immigration purposes only. What I put in bold would be the actual reason for denial. Best to think in terms of the totality of the circumstances and do so objectively. That's what the Consular officer is going to do.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

SPOUSE AND HUSBAND ARE THE WORDS EMBASSY USED IN E-MAIL THEY SENT TO ME. MY PETITION IS FOR K1-I129F WHICH GOT DENIED. I HAVE TONS OF PROOF SINCE 2008.

Is he your husband or your fiance?

[pushbrk 12,975]

Is he your husband or your fiance?

Lots of details from previous threads are missing from this one.

Initially the K1 was denied, so the couple married. Later USCIS reaffirmed the I-129F and sent it back evidently and strangely with the direction to the Consulate to process the I-129F for a K3 visa instead of K1. At the second interview, the visa was denied for lack of evidence of a bona fide relationship. It all sounds pretty far-fetched but that's the best I can put together from all the mess of information.