Why no LOOTING in Japan?

[Peikko 1,575]

Let's be honest here. It's culture. Japanese are educated for the fact they choose to be. The US offers education to anyone and everyone who lives here. Whether a person chooses to take advantage of it is another story...

Demographics, right but not cultural characteristics.

has anyone besides you mentioned black people? Is Japan rich? what does it mean that demographics are "not driven" by culture but are "defined" by culture.

Please explain what those terms mean.

Go get yourself an education.

[Captain Oates 911]

Indeed there are. However, as a society it is not either poor or uneducated.

But why don't the poor people loot ?

It's about culture not economics and many people in Japan are left with nothing

My family were poor as far as income was concerned. Our family culture was above all our neighbours who all had more money than us. While they were stealing and drunk and committing incest and in and out of prison and gambling, we stayed above all that and looked down on that behaviour.

Culture can be national or individual or by family

The poor people in Japan have a better culture than the poor people in say LA despite the fact that the vast majority of the people in LA are firmly 'christian'.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Demographics, right but not cultural characteristics.

Go get yourself an education.

It is cultural characteristic's...and you know it. Not every peoples are the same. Look at test scores, or better yet spend sometime with a Japanese family, or even spend time in Japan. Manners and discipline are all part of the Japanese culture. It's a fact of life, and any argument against that imo is not only foolish, but shows a total lack of knowledge in regards to Japanese culture as a whole.

Let's just call it like it really is for once shall we ?

Edited March 16, 2011 by Why_Me

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

But why don't the poor people loot ?

It's about culture not economics and many people in Japan are left with nothing

My family were poor as far as income was concerned. Our family culture was above all our neighbours who all had more money than us. While they were stealing and drunk and committing incest and in and out of prison and gambling, we stayed above all that and looked down on that behaviour.

Culture can be national or individual or by family

The poor people in Japan have a better culture than the poor people in say LA despite the fact that the vast majority of the people in LA are firmly 'christian'.

Incest?

Oh I have to go do ceramic tile in the bathroom. I have to go.

I WIN!

[Captain Oates 911]

Incest?

Oh I have to go do ceramic tile in the bathroom. I have to go.

I WIN!

Ukrainians only win when it comes to nuclear power plant accidents

they are still number 1

[Peikko 1,575]

But why don't the poor people loot ?

It's about culture not economics and many people in Japan are left with nothing

My family were poor as far as income was concerned. Our family culture was above all our neighbours who all had more money than us. While they were stealing and drunk and committing incest and in and out of prison and gambling, we stayed above all that and looked down on that behaviour.

Culture can be national or individual or by family

The poor people in Japan have a better culture than the poor people in say LA despite the fact that the vast majority of the people in LA are firmly 'christian'.

How do you know that some of them don't?

What is a 'family culture'? All you are saying that not everyone responds in the same way to the same stresses. Brilliant, who didn't know that? However, in general, if an area is suffering from economic stress BEFORE there is a catastrophic event the aftermath is MORE LIKELY to be more profound with a more general break down in society than if an area is in general prosperous prior to the catastrophic event. That's just common sense and has nothing to do with an inherent propensity toward being law abiding or not.

[Captain Oates 911]

How do you know that some of them don't?

What is a 'family culture'? All you are saying that not everyone responds in the same way to the same stresses. Brilliant, who didn't know that? However, in general, if an area is suffering from economic stress BEFORE there is a catastrophic event the aftermath is MORE LIKELY to be more profound with a more general break down in society than if an area is in general prosperous prior to the catastrophic event. That's just common sense and has nothing to do with an inherent propensity toward being law abiding or not.

I disagree

There are areas like Tibet where people are very poor and yet the culture is strong and not criminal

Similarly, I bet the Eskimos didn't used to nip into each others igloos and steal their blankets every time the neighbours went off on a seal hunt

In many countries, poverty is the norm but does not result in marauding gangs

On the other hand, people like Al Capone had lots of money but behaved in a criminal way

A national culture is made up of individual cultures - bottom up and not top down - and individual cultures can easily be divorced from economic circumstances. I am sure there were many totally deprived Haitians who thought that looting was 'below' them.

It's usually the strong and well fed who do the looting while the truly hungry huddle in their shelters and beg

[Peikko 1,575]

I disagree

There are areas like Tibet where people are very poor and yet the culture is strong and not criminal

Similarly, I bet the Eskimos didn't used to nip into each others igloos and steal their blankets every time the neighbours went off on a seal hunt

In many countries, poverty is the norm but does not result in marauding gangs

On the other hand, people like Al Capone had lots of money but behaved in a criminal way

A national culture is made up of individual cultures - bottom up and not top down - and individual cultures can easily be divorced from economic circumstances. I am sure there were many totally deprived Haitians who thought that looting was 'below' them.

It's usually the strong and well fed who do the looting while the truly hungry huddle in their shelters and beg

What you bet and what actually happens in real life situations are not exactly the same thing. In most countries where poverty is the norm there are marauding gangs mostly government backed to boot. It's a function of being in an economically stressed situation that the struggle for the few resources that exist creates social discord. This is not rocket science. Of course not all Haitians are evil criminals, no one said they were - most people, most of the time are law abiding. However in economically stressed situations those who have a criminal bent tend to have some level of power either with or without government backing. In economically stable regions, power is distributed differently although as we all know corruption is ever present at some level but there is a level of trust and stability in society that does not crumble easily. That's where the differences lie not in some wonderful virtues that are only present in some cultures and not others.

[Captain Oates 911]

What you bet and what actually happens in real life situations are not exactly the same thing. In most countries where poverty is the norm there are marauding gangs mostly government backed to boot. It's a function of being in an economically stressed situation that the struggle for the few resources that exist creates social discord. This is not rocket science. Of course not all Haitians are evil criminals, no one said they were - most people, most of the time are law abiding. However in economically stressed situations those who have a criminal bent tend to have some level of power either with or without government backing. In economically stable regions, power is distributed differently although as we all know corruption is ever present at some level but there is a level of trust and stability in society that does not crumble easily. That's where the differences lie not in some wonderful virtues that are only present in some cultures and not others.

Are you saying that in similarly distressed circumstances you would join the gang of looters ?

If you say no, then you make my point about individual culture. If you say yes, then you will never qualify to be a Japanese citizen

Get enough people together with the same culture and you have a national culture - like Japan

[^_^ 5,021]

Around here, it's been noticed by many how poor neighborhoods seem to improve when the demographic composition changes from the post great migration composition to the current composition which is a function of huge amounts of migration from Latin america. It's not like the new inhabitants aren't poor or that they are more educated. They just act right when the previous inhabitants didn't.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I wonder if the Argentinian plane crash survivors who ate their dead friends were cannibals by culture

People will do more or less anything if they are desperate enough, regardless of 'culture'

[Captain Oates 911]

I wonder if the Argentinian plane crash survivors who ate their dead friends were cannibals by culture

People will do more or less anything if they are desperate enough, regardless of 'culture'

But I would eat Liz Hurley first whereas the SC LA people would eat Barny Frank because they are less discriminating by culture

Actually I would eat Liz Hurley even if I wasn't in a plane crash

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Ukrainians only win when it comes to nuclear power plant accidents

they are still number 1

Hint. I'm not Ukrainian. But don't tell, OK?

I wonder if the Argentinian plane crash survivors who ate their dead friends were cannibals by culture

People will do more or less anything if they are desperate enough, regardless of 'culture'

I wonder how desparate the Japanese have to be to loot stores. Much more desparate than people in New Orleans, of course, but HOW much more?

[Danno 1,228]

I wonder if the Argentinian plane crash survivors who ate their dead friends were cannibals by culture

People will do more or less anything if they are desperate enough, regardless of 'culture'

Actually, when we were the most desperate, we stood orderly in lines too.

Not aware of mass looting or gang rapes in those desperate times.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Ukrainians only win when it comes to nuclear power plant accidents

they are still number 1

I bet that honor doesn't survive the week. What do you think?