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I am from Orlando, Fl area. I called Vermont on Tuesday, and was told that they were currently processing April 4th. Anyone knows how long since they have been "processing" April 4th?

Since at least the beginning of December (when I first called them), and perhaps a bit longer into late November. To get more specifics, try to politely insist on speaking to a Level 2 agent. They typically have more information than the agents who answer the phone.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Venezuela
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Updating :)

California Service Center (25 applicants, 20 approved 80%)

VJName............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....

JLOVESC..............03/31/11........04/04/11.......05/12/11........--/--/11....

ARAVIS227............04/01/11........04/04/11.......05/05/11........06/16/11....

JOHNICHKA............04/01/11........04/06/11.......05/11/11........07/19/11.... (card received 7/23)

PDX5.................04/02/11........04/06/11.......06/02/11........07/19/11.... (card received 7/22)

MICHAELOLESEA........04/04/11........04/06/11.......05/12/11........07/22/11.... (RFE received 7/12, responded 7/15)(card received 7/28)

ESHANSMOMMY..........04/04/11........04/08/11.......05/20/11........07/08/11.... (card received 7/14)

G00B3R...............04/04/11........04/06/11.......05/12/11........08/04/11.... (RFE received 7/11, responded 7/26)(card received 8/10)

NORMAN AND DIJANI....04/05/11........04/12/11.......05/12/11........08/13/11.... (RFE received 6/18, responded 7/30)(card received 8/14)

MERENGUERA...........04/07/11........04/14/11.......05/17/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 7/27)

GOONER...............04/08/11........04/11/11.......05/13/11........07/19/11....

CALIFORNIALOVE99.....04/10/11........04/11/11.......05/20/11........07/21/11.... (Early Bio 5/09)(card received 7/25)

NAGISHKAW............04/12/11........04/13/11.......05/20/11........--/--/11....

NICARAGUA............04/14/11........04/--/11.......05/26/11........07/07/11....

SOJEN................04/15/11........04/18/11.......06/17/11........09/06/11....

LORD INFAMOUS........04/15/11........04/25/11.......06/06/11........08/25/11.... (check cashed on 4/27...RFE 8/15)(card received 8/31)

CPBDDO...............04/15/11........04/26/11.......06/29/11........10/06/11....

JCLL13...............04/16/11........04/18/11.......06/29/11........10/06/11.... (card received 10/13)

KIWI123..............04/16/11........04/22/11.......05/24/11........08/25/11.... (RFE 07/15)(reponded 8/8)

DRVS.................04/18/11........04/20/11.......06/10/11........08/18/11.... (card received 8/24)

RACHBEL..............04/18/11........04/20/11.......06/01/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 7/22)

ACROW................04/20/11........04/27/11.......06/27/11........--/--/11....

CCA..................04/21/11........04/25/11.......05/24/11........07/13/11.... (check cashed on 4/27)

GISKAT09.............04/25/11........04/--/11.......06/10/11........09/22/11....

SHEND................04/26/11........04/27/11.......06/03/11........07/05/11.... (check cashed on 4/29)(Early Bio 5/19)

MISS YOKO............04/26/11........04/29/11.......06/06/11........09/22/11.... (RFE received 8/08, responded 9/12)

Vermont Service Center (40 applicants, 25 approved 63%)

VJName............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....

MANUELA..............03/29/11........04/04/11.......05/25/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 4/6)

K84..................03/31/11........04/04/11.......06/17/11........10/21/11.... (check cashed on 4/8)(card received 10/28)

QUEUEDUP.............03/31/11........04/04/11.......06/02/11........11/07/11.... (check cashed on 4/6)(card received 11/19)

AMANDA AND RAAD......04/01/11........04/05/11.......06/17/11........11/25/11....

SOPHIE123............04/01/11........04/05/11.......06/06/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 12/08)

####### JOURNEY.......04/02/11........04/05/11.......06/06/11........--/--/11....

FRALI................04/02/11........04/06/11.......06/06/11........--/--/11....

SIB..................04/04/11........04/11/11.......06/07/11........08/23/11.... (Early Bio 6/01)(card received 8/29)

BEN AND ASH..........04/05/11........04/07/11.......06/06/11........10/18/11.... (card received 10/25)

JENKA................04/08/11........--/--/11.......--/--/11........--/--/11....

POTTER1..............04/09/11........04/11/11.......06/21/11........--/--/11....

CANADIAN_WIFE........04/09/11........04/14/11.......06/09/11........11/09/11.... (Early Bio 6/04)(card received 11/18)

JIMMY AND ANGELA.....04/09/11........04/15/11.......XX/XX/XX........12/02/11.... (card received 12/12)

IVANCICAS............04/11/11........04/14/11.......06/07/11........10/24/11.... (card received 11/4)

JAKE10M..............04/--/11........04/14/11.......06/13/11........--/--/11....

POUTINE..............04/11/11........04/18/11.......06/08/11........12/28/11....

CEZYCHIC.............04/11/11........04/23/11.......07/22/11........12/13/11.... (check cashed on 4/22)(Early Bio 7/8)(card received 12/19)

ROCKS................04/12/11........04/14/11.......07/21/11........11/29/11.... (card received 12/12)

TUMBIN...............04/13/11........04/18/11.......06/03/11........12/12/11.... (check cashed on 4/18)

DROGS................04/14/11........04/19/11.......06/08/11........11/29/11....(card rc/d 12/09)

TIHANA_12............04/15/11........04/18/11.......06/08/11........--/--/11....

WINTERDAY............04/--/11........04/18/11.......06/16/11........11/18/11....

DASH-TX..............04/15/11........04/18/11.......06/07/11........12/08/11.... (card received 12/20)

CHOPSM1..............04/15/11........04/19/11.......06/08/11........11/29/11.... (check cashed on 4/25)(card rc'd 12/09)

RAFKA23..............04/18/11........04/20/11.......06/03/11........12/--/11.... (check cashed on 4/26)

DEANNE AND CARLOS....04/18/11........04/21/11.......06/14/11........12/07/11.... (Early Bio 6/01)

BOLBAM...............04/18/11........04/22/11.......06/13/11........11/22/11.... (card received 12/03)

SISIFOU..............04/18/11........xx/xx/xx.......06/08/11........12/09/11.... (card received 12/15)

MKENYA...............04/19/11........04/--/11.......06/09/11........12/14/11.... (card received 12/20)

ENG_ASHRAF12.........04/20/11........04/21/11.......06/16/11........12/28/11.... (check cashed on 4/26)

SCHMOOPYKITTY........04/20/11........04/22/11.......06/14/11........12/05/11.... (check cashed on 4/27)

MRSROWE..............04/21/11........04/26/11.......06/16/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 5/02)

GTG349N..............04/21/11........04/27/11.......06/09/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 4/29)(Early Bio 6/02)

NINA~................04/22/11........04/29/11.......06/08/11........12/13/11.... (check cashed on 4/27)

PHILL86518...........04/--/11........04/29/11.......06/17/11........--/--/11....

HATETOWAIT...........04/25/11........04/27/11.......06/27/11........--/--/11....

GAKKUKEN.............04/25/11........05/02/11.......--/--/11........--/--/11....

FAIRANDFOUL..........04/27/11........04/29/11.......06/20/11........12/13/11.... (Early Bio 6/10)

LOVERS0720...........04/27/11........05/02/11.......06/27/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 5/05)(Early Bio 6/13)

CHRISTOPHANDEVAN.....04/27/11........05/02/11.......06/09/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 5/05)

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Egypt
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Congrats eng_ashraf12 and Poutine :dance::thumbs::dance:

Thank you Drogs and good luck to you all

USCIS VSC

06-05-2008 I 130 sent

06-13-2008 NOA1

12-17-2008 Transferred to CSC

12-18-2008 Touched

12-22-2008 Touched

12-23-2008 Touched

12-24-2008 Touched

12-29-2008 Touched

01-05-2009 Touched

01-05-2009 Approved

01-06-2009 Touched

NVC

01-08-2009 Case received and case number assigned

01-15-2009 AOS and IV bill generated

01-23-2009 AOS and IV bill received

01-24-2009 AOS and IV bill paid online

01-28-2009 AOS and IV bill shown as paid

02-02-2009 AOS and IV Applications sent via USPS

02-04-2009 Documents Received by NVC, AVR updated

02-08-2009 Spoke to Operator, all Documents reviewed today, waiting for dicission. (Please GOD, No RFE)

02-10-2009 called NVC,, wow CASE COMPLETE!!!!!!!!! on our anniversary!!!!!!!!.

AOS

04-20-2011 I-751 sent to VSC

04-21-2011 I-751 received

04-21-2011 NOA1 issued

04-28-2011 NOA1 received

05-26-2011 Bio Letter Received

06-14-2011 Bio Appointment

12-28-2011 Approved

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Egypt
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thank you camarade! and good luck to the rest of you who are still waiting...

Husband made an infopass for this morning because we haven't heard one word regarding the case. He was told there will be an interview at the local office...at some point in time. We kind of figured as much, but at least we know they didn't loose the application.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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Husband made an infopass for this morning because we haven't heard one word regarding the case. He was told there will be an interview at the local office...at some point in time. We kind of figured as much, but at least we know they didn't loose the application.

how come you expected an interview?

21 oct 08 : i-129F sent / 22 oct 08 : NOA1 / 23 feb 09: NOA2 / 13 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 3' / 28 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 4' / 20 apr 09 : interview / 22 apr 09 : passport/visa delivery by courier / 29 apr 09 : POE @ PHL / <3 05 may 09 : married <3 / 06 jul 09 : AOS submitted / 09 jul 09 : NOA for EAD/AP/i-485 / 28 jul 09 : biometrics / 31 aug 09 : AP rec'd / 02 sep 09 : EAD rec'd / 19 oct 09 : conditional green card rec'd

16 jul 11 : i-751 sent to VSC (fedex)

18 jul 11 : fedex confirmed delivery; NOA1 generated

20 jul 11 : NOA1 notice rec'd; check cashed; touch

26 jul 11 : NOA2 generated

28 jul 11 : NOA2 biometrics appt letter rec'd

29 jul 11 : letter req biometrics appt rescheduling sent

09 aug 11 : biometrics appt (could not attend); NOA3 generated

11 aug 11 : NOA3 (rescheduled) biometrics appt letter rec'd

24 aug 11 : biometrics appt

14 oct 11 : conditional green card expiry date

16 nov 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR online

18 nov 11 : mailed i-865 for USC

22 nov 11 : moved house; NOA4 change of address for USC rec'd

13 dec 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR by phone

29 dec 11 : filed hardcopy AR-11 for LPR by mail

18 jan 12 : 6 month mark ROC

05 apr 12 : approval letter rec'd

16 jul 12 : n-400 filing window opens

immediate concerns:

none, immigration-wise.
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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Egypt
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how come you expected an interview?

Because we always had two of them from the beginning... two interviews at the Embassy level and two interviews for AOS. We didn't expect USCIS to just approve us and fire off the 10 year without an interview. No, that would be too easy !

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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Because we always had two of them from the beginning... two interviews at the Embassy level and two interviews for AOS. We didn't expect USCIS to just approve us and fire off the 10 year without an interview. No, that would be too easy !

well at least you guys are good at them! knock 'em dead!

21 oct 08 : i-129F sent / 22 oct 08 : NOA1 / 23 feb 09: NOA2 / 13 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 3' / 28 mar 09 : rec'd 'packet 4' / 20 apr 09 : interview / 22 apr 09 : passport/visa delivery by courier / 29 apr 09 : POE @ PHL / <3 05 may 09 : married <3 / 06 jul 09 : AOS submitted / 09 jul 09 : NOA for EAD/AP/i-485 / 28 jul 09 : biometrics / 31 aug 09 : AP rec'd / 02 sep 09 : EAD rec'd / 19 oct 09 : conditional green card rec'd

16 jul 11 : i-751 sent to VSC (fedex)

18 jul 11 : fedex confirmed delivery; NOA1 generated

20 jul 11 : NOA1 notice rec'd; check cashed; touch

26 jul 11 : NOA2 generated

28 jul 11 : NOA2 biometrics appt letter rec'd

29 jul 11 : letter req biometrics appt rescheduling sent

09 aug 11 : biometrics appt (could not attend); NOA3 generated

11 aug 11 : NOA3 (rescheduled) biometrics appt letter rec'd

24 aug 11 : biometrics appt

14 oct 11 : conditional green card expiry date

16 nov 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR online

18 nov 11 : mailed i-865 for USC

22 nov 11 : moved house; NOA4 change of address for USC rec'd

13 dec 11 : filed AR-11 for LPR by phone

29 dec 11 : filed hardcopy AR-11 for LPR by mail

18 jan 12 : 6 month mark ROC

05 apr 12 : approval letter rec'd

16 jul 12 : n-400 filing window opens

immediate concerns:

none, immigration-wise.
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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Egypt
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well at least you guys are good at them! knock 'em dead!

;)

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

It gets harder the more you know. Because the more you find out, the uglier everything seems.

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Still nothing...

HAPPY NEW YEAR, by the way, to my fellow April 2011 AOS filers! Hope y'all are having a good one! cool.gif

Feb 07 - met my Dream Guy

Jun 08 - arrived in the US

Jul 08 - ♥♥♥ WEDDING DAY ♥♥♥

Jul 09 - Temp GC received

Mar 12 - 10 yr GC received

Aug 13 - Naturalized

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Egypt
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Approval Letter and New card received today in the mail.

USCIS VSC

06-05-2008 I 130 sent

06-13-2008 NOA1

12-17-2008 Transferred to CSC

12-18-2008 Touched

12-22-2008 Touched

12-23-2008 Touched

12-24-2008 Touched

12-29-2008 Touched

01-05-2009 Touched

01-05-2009 Approved

01-06-2009 Touched

NVC

01-08-2009 Case received and case number assigned

01-15-2009 AOS and IV bill generated

01-23-2009 AOS and IV bill received

01-24-2009 AOS and IV bill paid online

01-28-2009 AOS and IV bill shown as paid

02-02-2009 AOS and IV Applications sent via USPS

02-04-2009 Documents Received by NVC, AVR updated

02-08-2009 Spoke to Operator, all Documents reviewed today, waiting for dicission. (Please GOD, No RFE)

02-10-2009 called NVC,, wow CASE COMPLETE!!!!!!!!! on our anniversary!!!!!!!!.

AOS

04-20-2011 I-751 sent to VSC

04-21-2011 I-751 received

04-21-2011 NOA1 issued

04-28-2011 NOA1 received

05-26-2011 Bio Letter Received

06-14-2011 Bio Appointment

12-28-2011 Approved

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Japan
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Husband made an infopass for this morning because we haven't heard one word regarding the case. He was told there will be an interview at the local office...at some point in time. We kind of figured as much, but at least we know they didn't loose the application.

Sorry to hear that... :( Updating...

Card production order email on December 27.

Approval letter in mail on December 29.

Card in mail on December 30.

Thanks everyone and good luck!

THE CARD came with todays mail... Happy New Year dear me!!!

Approval Letter and New card received today in the mail.

Updating rafka23, poutine and eng_ashraf12's card received dates :)

California Service Center (25 applicants, 20 approved 80%)

VJName............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....

JLOVESC..............03/31/11........04/04/11.......05/12/11........--/--/11....

ARAVIS227............04/01/11........04/04/11.......05/05/11........06/16/11....

JOHNICHKA............04/01/11........04/06/11.......05/11/11........07/19/11.... (card received 7/23)

PDX5.................04/02/11........04/06/11.......06/02/11........07/19/11.... (card received 7/22)

MICHAELOLESEA........04/04/11........04/06/11.......05/12/11........07/22/11.... (RFE received 7/12, responded 7/15)(card received 7/28)

ESHANSMOMMY..........04/04/11........04/08/11.......05/20/11........07/08/11.... (card received 7/14)

G00B3R...............04/04/11........04/06/11.......05/12/11........08/04/11.... (RFE received 7/11, responded 7/26)(card received 8/10)

NORMAN AND DIJANI....04/05/11........04/12/11.......05/12/11........08/13/11.... (RFE received 6/18, responded 7/30)(card received 8/14)

MERENGUERA...........04/07/11........04/14/11.......05/17/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 7/27)

GOONER...............04/08/11........04/11/11.......05/13/11........07/19/11....

CALIFORNIALOVE99.....04/10/11........04/11/11.......05/20/11........07/21/11.... (Early Bio 5/09)(card received 7/25)

NAGISHKAW............04/12/11........04/13/11.......05/20/11........--/--/12.... (Interview is scheduling)

NICARAGUA............04/14/11........04/--/11.......05/26/11........07/07/11....

SOJEN................04/15/11........04/18/11.......06/17/11........09/06/11....

LORD INFAMOUS........04/15/11........04/25/11.......06/06/11........08/25/11.... (check cashed on 4/27...RFE 8/15)(card received 8/31)

CPBDDO...............04/15/11........04/26/11.......06/29/11........10/06/11....

JCLL13...............04/16/11........04/18/11.......06/29/11........10/06/11.... (card received 10/13)

KIWI123..............04/16/11........04/22/11.......05/24/11........08/25/11.... (RFE 07/15)(reponded 8/8)

DRVS.................04/18/11........04/20/11.......06/10/11........08/18/11.... (card received 8/24)

RACHBEL..............04/18/11........04/20/11.......06/01/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 7/22)

ACROW................04/20/11........04/27/11.......06/27/11........--/--/11....

CCA..................04/21/11........04/25/11.......05/24/11........07/13/11.... (check cashed on 4/27)

GISKAT09.............04/25/11........04/--/11.......06/10/11........09/22/11....

SHEND................04/26/11........04/27/11.......06/03/11........07/05/11.... (check cashed on 4/29)(Early Bio 5/19)

MISS YOKO............04/26/11........04/29/11.......06/06/11........09/22/11.... (RFE received 8/08, responded 9/12)

Vermont Service Center (40 applicants, 25 approved 63%)

VJName............Date of I-751.....NOA1 Date......Biometrics.......Approved....

MANUELA..............03/29/11........04/04/11.......05/25/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 4/6)

K84..................03/31/11........04/04/11.......06/17/11........10/21/11.... (check cashed on 4/8)(card received 10/28)

QUEUEDUP.............03/31/11........04/04/11.......06/02/11........11/07/11.... (check cashed on 4/6)(card received 11/19)

AMANDA AND RAAD......04/01/11........04/05/11.......06/17/11........11/25/11....

SOPHIE123............04/01/11........04/05/11.......06/06/11........--/--/11.... (RFE received 12/08)

####### JOURNEY.......04/02/11........04/05/11.......06/06/11........--/--/11....

FRALI................04/02/11........04/06/11.......06/06/11........--/--/11....

SIB..................04/04/11........04/11/11.......06/07/11........08/23/11.... (Early Bio 6/01)(card received 8/29)

BEN AND ASH..........04/05/11........04/07/11.......06/06/11........10/18/11.... (card received 10/25)

JENKA................04/08/11........--/--/11.......--/--/11........--/--/11....

POTTER1..............04/09/11........04/11/11.......06/21/11........--/--/11....

CANADIAN_WIFE........04/09/11........04/14/11.......06/09/11........11/09/11.... (Early Bio 6/04)(card received 11/18)

JIMMY AND ANGELA.....04/09/11........04/15/11.......XX/XX/XX........12/02/11.... (card received 12/12)

IVANCICAS............04/11/11........04/14/11.......06/07/11........10/24/11.... (card received 11/4)

JAKE10M..............04/--/11........04/14/11.......06/13/11........--/--/11....

POUTINE..............04/11/11........04/18/11.......06/08/11........12/28/11.... (card received 12/31)

CEZYCHIC.............04/11/11........04/23/11.......07/22/11........12/13/11.... (check cashed on 4/22)(Early Bio 7/8)(card received 12/19)

ROCKS................04/12/11........04/14/11.......07/21/11........11/29/11.... (card received 12/12)

TUMBIN...............04/13/11........04/18/11.......06/03/11........12/12/11.... (check cashed on 4/18)

DROGS................04/14/11........04/19/11.......06/08/11........11/29/11....(card rc/d 12/09)

TIHANA_12............04/15/11........04/18/11.......06/08/11........--/--/11....

WINTERDAY............04/--/11........04/18/11.......06/16/11........11/18/11....

DASH-TX..............04/15/11........04/18/11.......06/07/11........12/08/11.... (card received 12/20)

CHOPSM1..............04/15/11........04/19/11.......06/08/11........11/29/11.... (check cashed on 4/25)(card rc'd 12/09)

RAFKA23..............04/18/11........04/20/11.......06/03/11........12/27/11.... (check cashed on 4/26)(card received 12/30)

DEANNE AND CARLOS....04/18/11........04/21/11.......06/14/11........12/07/11.... (Early Bio 6/01)

BOLBAM...............04/18/11........04/22/11.......06/13/11........11/22/11.... (card received 12/03)

SISIFOU..............04/18/11........xx/xx/xx.......06/08/11........12/09/11.... (card received 12/15)

MKENYA...............04/19/11........04/--/11.......06/09/11........12/14/11.... (card received 12/20)

ENG_ASHRAF12.........04/20/11........04/21/11.......06/16/11........12/28/11.... (check cashed on 4/26)(card received 01/03/12)

SCHMOOPYKITTY........04/20/11........04/22/11.......06/14/11........12/05/11.... (check cashed on 4/27)

MRSROWE..............04/21/11........04/26/11.......06/16/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 5/02)

GTG349N..............04/21/11........04/27/11.......06/09/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 4/29)(Early Bio 6/02)

NINA~................04/22/11........04/29/11.......06/08/11........12/13/11.... (check cashed on 4/27)

PHILL86518...........04/--/11........04/29/11.......06/17/11........--/--/11....

HATETOWAIT...........04/25/11........04/27/11.......06/27/11........--/--/11....

GAKKUKEN.............04/25/11........05/02/11.......--/--/11........--/--/11....

FAIRANDFOUL..........04/27/11........04/29/11.......06/20/11........12/13/11.... (Early Bio 6/10)

LOVERS0720...........04/27/11........05/02/11.......06/27/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 5/05)(Early Bio 6/13)

CHRISTOPHANDEVAN.....04/27/11........05/02/11.......06/09/11........--/--/11.... (check cashed on 5/05)

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