Intimate photos/ having sex while Fiance

[Ed Hall 7]

You'll are scaring people when there is nothing to scare petitioners about, the consulars are not asking about their sex lives in detail. Show me where a Consular has gone into detail questioning of a petitioner about their sex activities.

Well, I can tell you that we were interrogated at length with very specific detailed questions including our sex lives back in 2009 at the consulate in Guayaquil Ecuador for the K-1 visa. First, I was interrogated for nearly 45 minutes then afterwards, my fiancee at the time was interrogated and they asked the same exact questions. Luckily, our answers matched since we had spent months preparing. We even discussed how we would answer in the case they asked about our sex lives and luckily we did because it did happen. It's been nearly 2 years since and we are still feeling the shock from the horrible mistreatment.

[TBoneTX 46,321]

It's been nearly 2 years since and we are still feeling the shock from the horrible mistreatment.

Nearly 3 years here, and the same. This is one reason why I still haven't posted a Consulate Review -- it would barbecue your eyes and make your computer explode.

[M&S forever 4]

This is a grown up conversation!

So I have noticed that some fiance' visa applicants are asked about having sex with their partners and are asked to produce intimate photos. While some folks do have sex, others think its bad form to have sex before marriage. This doesn't seem to vary by nation but more perhaps by religious proclivity.

How can consular officers ask about or expect that those of us in Fiance' relationships will have had sex???

And honestly my sex life is none of their business, but I'll answer the questions if it gets my fiance here. I think it borders on cruel and unusual punishment.

Hi,

Just read your post and was shocked I've never heard about this that police officer ask this.They do not care is Fiancées have sex or not.It is not even in their competitions to ask this.I think it is fake info.Where you got this info.Soon I will have my interview and i will let you know

Good luck,

M&S.forever

[Samoray 165]

I don't think they can ask for photos, well what if you never took photos

[Angelheart1962 6]

I'm sorry Joydee, but your post, although perfectly valid, did make me chuckle.

I have my interview tomorrow and I never thought about them asking me that, although I know it has happened to other VJ'ers! Obviously if it did come up (so to speak!) the truth is always the best policy with immigration officers, and I'm sure there are limits as to what they can ask. Dont worry about it, you'll be fine. x

Edited March 14, 2011 by Angelheart1962

[Ed Hall 7]

I'm sorry Joydee, but your post, although perfectly valid, did make me chuckle.

I have my interview tomorrow and I never thought about them asking me that, although I know it has happened to other VJ'ers! Obviously if it did come up (so to speak!) the truth is always the best policy with immigration officers, and I'm sure there are limits as to what they can ask. Dont worry about it, you'll be fine. x

There are no limits to what they can ask as in our case at the Guayaquil consulate in Ecuador. They know that they are immune from any form of retribution. The purpose of their interrogation techniques is to find a disparity between you and your fiance/fiancee answers so they have reason to call your relationship fake. All it takes is 1 disparity between the answers. And like in our case, they will go as far as asking questions regarding intimacy knowing that this is where people will often not answer honestly. If you said yes to having sex and she said no, that very well could be reason to deny the visa since both of you are asked beforehand to raise your hand and swear that you will tell nothing but the truth. In our case, we spent many months preparing for the interview knowing how difficult it would be and to this day, we are very shocked at the illegal treatment we received. We both were treated like criminals.

My advice it to prepare beforehand and always answer with short concise answers. Also, don't be afraid to answer "I don't remember" or "I don't know".

[Boiler 46,322]

There are no limits to what they can ask as in our case at the Guayaquil consulate in Ecuador. They know that they are immune from any form of retribution. The purpose of their interrogation techniques is to find a disparity between you and your fiance/fiancee answers so they have reason to call your relationship fake. All it takes is 1 disparity between the answers. And like in our case, they will go as far as asking questions regarding intimacy knowing that this is where people will often not answer honestly. If you said yes to having sex and she said no, that very well could be reason to deny the visa since both of you are asked beforehand to raise your hand and swear that you will tell nothing but the truth. In our case, we spent many months preparing for the interview knowing how difficult it would be and to this day, we are very shocked at the illegal treatment we received. We both were treated like criminals.

My advice it to prepare beforehand and always answer with short concise answers. Also, don't be afraid to answer "I don't remember" or "I don't know".

So what was illegal. You do not say.

[Peter&Jaime 1]

We were never asked anything about our intimacy at our interview and I have never heard about anyone being asked about it.

[Ed Hall 7]

So what was illegal. You do not say.

Well, I did say in an earlier reply.

Lets put it this way, if this consulate were a US business interviewing a potential employee and the same questions were asked, there would be many lawsuits filed against them. So yes, it would be illegal for a US business but apparently not for them.

[Boiler 46,322]

They are not a US Business, they are not even in the US, so what laws is in question?

[JoyDee 21]

They are not a US Business, they are not even in the US, so what laws is in question?

The consulate is US property even though its in the foreign nation. THey do have to abide by US laws!

[Boiler 46,322]

So which law have they broken?

[thongd4me 69]

Just the title of the thread says it all - "troll"

I've never heard in over a year of any interview requiring "money shots."

Even if the marriage was fake, they could be produced if the individuals wanted

it badly enough. That wouldn't be a good criteria for testing fraud, because

it violates just about every code of ethics there is, while even if they were produced

they wouldn't prove anything.

Lots of folks who aren't married can have recreational sex.

[lynJer 7]

Im just reading this and thinking to myself 'What a good Idea'????

Cos Im sick and tired of being considered as a fraudster....Ill give them photos of us having all kinds 'intimate' moments over a 22 year time line...and just wish they cld give me a hassell free quick residency/citizenship so I can live with my husband as normal - this whole process seems to label you as a liar before you even start applying.......and...Im sick of pulling out the big bucks

[Darnell 8,479]

This is a grown up conversation!

So I have noticed that some fiance' visa applicants are asked about having sex with their partners and are asked to produce intimate photos. While some folks do have sex, others think its bad form to have sex before marriage. This doesn't seem to vary by nation but more perhaps by religious proclivity.

How can consular officers ask about or expect that those of us in Fiance' relationships will have had sex???

And honestly my sex life is none of their business, but I'll answer the questions if it gets my fiance here. I think it borders on cruel and unusual punishment.

OK - I've read the link. That couple underwent a mini-stokes interview, because something was found during the background investigation.

When a stokes interview, or a mini-stokes interview is started - these types of questions are not only allowed, but are a 'given' - expect some harsh stuff.

The anomoly is that it was a mini-stokes interview at a US Embassy for a K-1 visa - many times, instead - these are done at a local USCIS office in the USA for any 'adjustment of status' or 'removal of conditions' interview.

IMO, something was wonky with that casefile, and the background checks found something untoward.

Do you fit the profile of that OP? If so, expect same treatment. If not, don't worry about this stuff.

Finally, to wrap up - THEY WEREN'T ASKED FOR PHOTOS of INTIMATE MOMENTS - they were asked about the intimate moments, instead.

Edited March 14, 2011 by Darnell