Concerning filing of the I-134 Financial support

[KATHERINE+RODNEY 3]

Hi, I hope someone has an answer. How much income is needed to pass the criteria to be able to support your fiance' on the I-134 form (financial affidavit)of support for US citizens? I thought I read somewhere many weeks ago that it was 125% above the poverty line. But now I can't find that report anymore. That may have been for Canada and not the US. if 125% above the poverty line is the case, then what is the poverty line that the USCIS will use. I call the 1-800 customer service # but can't get a live person, only a recording.

Thanks for your help.

[YuAndDan 153]

USCIS does not use I-134, the consulate does. There are literally hundreds of topics in the Embassy/Consulate forum on the I-134.

You will not be filing I-134 with the I-129F K-1 petition, it is later used at the visa interview at the consulate... Moving to Embassy/Consulate forum.

Technically the income level from US citizen only needs to be at 100% for the I-134, however understanding that the K-1 will later adjust status, and at that time the level required is 125%, many consulates simply use the 125% level.

Guideline: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=73c63591ec04d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

[KATHERINE+RODNEY 3]

USCIS does not use I-134, the consulate does. There are literally hundreds of topics in the Embassy/Consulate forum on the I-134.

You will not be filing I-134 with the I-129F K-1 petition, it is later used at the visa interview at the consulate... Moving to Embassy/Consulate forum.

Technically the income level from US citizen only needs to be at 100% for the I-134, however understanding that the K-1 will later adjust status, and at that time the level required is 125%, many consulates simply use the 125% level.

Guideline: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=73c63591ec04d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

Thanks YouAndDan. Could you or anyone else clear one more thing up for me please on the I-134. I looked at the poverty guidelines for a 2 person family. Being $14,710. So, do I add the $18,387 on top of the $14,710 for a total income requirement of $33,097. Or is $18,387 125% of the poverty line. I guess I am having a wording problem. Is it 125% "ABOVE" or "OF" the poverty line?

Thanks again.

[YuAndDan 153]

Thanks YouAndDan. Could you or anyone else clear one more thing up for me please on the I-134. I looked at the poverty guidelines for a 2 person family. Being $14,710. So, do I add the $18,387 on top of the $14,710 for a total income requirement of $33,097. Or is $18,387 125% of the poverty line. I guess I am having a wording problem. Is it 125% "ABOVE" or "OF" the poverty line?

Thanks again.

$18,387 is the number it is 125% poverty line.

$14,710 x 1.25 = $18,387

[KATHERINE+RODNEY 3]

$18,387 is the number it is 125% poverty line.

$14,710 x 1.25 = $18,387

1.25% is not 125%

Why is there no phone number to the USCIS in Vermont where you can actually speak to a live person? I only get a recording with many options to choose from. None of the options being the option I need to discuss. There is no pressing "0" for a customer service rep.

Help!!

[VanessaTony 3,567]

1.25% is not 125%

Why is there no phone number to the USCIS in Vermont where you can actually speak to a live person? I only get a recording with many options to choose from. None of the options being the option I need to discuss. There is no pressing "0" for a customer service rep.

Help!!

He's not SAYING it's 1.25% (if he was there'd be a % sign there...) when calculating a price after a certain percent increase you can do it several difference ways. If you have a calculator with a percent button (%) it's a bit easier but he did it the way you do it without the percent button. If you have a percent button it would be $14,710 + 125% = $18,387.

But that's besides the point anyway.. just look at the I-864P that was posted earlier: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf which has the numbers.

It's 125% OF the poverty line... 125% above would be ridiculous and a lot of people (esp students or people fresh out of school) might not be able to afford that! It also says on the I-864P that it's "125% of the Poverty line".

When looking at your Consulate info here: http://www.visajourney.com/consulates/index.php?ctry=Peru&cty=Lima it mentions the I-864 which needs the 125% income level. So just be aware of that. Some countries require the I-864 even though technically the K1 only needs the I-134.

[KATHERINE+RODNEY 3]

He's not SAYING it's 1.25% (if he was there'd be a % sign there...) when calculating a price after a certain percent increase you can do it several difference ways. If you have a calculator with a percent button (%) it's a bit easier but he did it the way you do it without the percent button. If you have a percent button it would be $14,710 + 125% = $18,387.

But that's besides the point anyway.. just look at the I-864P that was posted earlier: http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-864p.pdf which has the numbers.

It's 125% OF the poverty line... 125% above would be ridiculous and a lot of people (esp students or people fresh out of school) might not be able to afford that! It also says on the I-864P that it's "125% of the Poverty line".

When looking at your Consulate info here: http://www.visajourney.com/consulates/index.php?ctry=Peru&cty=Lima it mentions the I-864 which needs the 125% income level. So just be aware of that. Some countries require the I-864 even though technically the K1 only needs the I-134.

Thanks a bunch. I am being overly cautious i think because I don't want any of these horror stories that I read on here to happen to me. I noticed that about Lima, Peru using the I-864 verses the I-134. Do you think it would make a big difference which one I used. The I-134 is much easier.

[max+patricia 24]

Thanks a bunch. I am being overly cautious i think because I don't want any of these horror stories that I read on here to happen to me. I noticed that about Lima, Peru using the I-864 verses the I-134. Do you think it would make a big difference which one I used. The I-134 is much easier.

You should be overly cautious in most things dealing with the government, I think mostly because many people are so unprepared. The main point in difference between I-134 and I-864 is that if you can't pass the requirements for the I-134 (which yes, is "easier" because it's less thorough) then how will you pass the requirements for the I-864? The I-864 is usually filed only a few weeks after entry on a K-1, and if you can't then meet those requirements then, the person who entered the US on the K-1 will be required to leave. So then why would an embassy issue a K-1 visa? It's the reason why most of them use the I-864's "standards"

I've never heard of an embassy using the I-864 at the time of the interview since the I-864 is used in adjusting status once here, but if Lima requires it, then yes, it will make a difference. My fiancee's embassy is Caracas, Venezuela, and I emailed them to make sure of what they want (they only want the I-134). You should do the same

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Thanks a bunch. I am being overly cautious i think because I don't want any of these horror stories that I read on here to happen to me. I noticed that about Lima, Peru using the I-864 verses the I-134. Do you think it would make a big difference which one I used. The I-134 is much easier.

The I-134 doesn't require tax returns, the I-864 does. The I-134 isn't binding, the I-864 is. The requirement is 125% for the I-864 which is fine because you'd need it for AOSing anyway.

The I-864 isn't as hard as you think when you first read it. It's just a bit overwhelming at first. Just take your time to slowly fill it in and you'll find it's a bit easier than you first thought

[KATHERINE+RODNEY 3]

You should be overly cautious in most things dealing with the government, I think mostly because many people are so unprepared. The main point in difference between I-134 and I-864 is that if you can't pass the requirements for the I-134 (which yes, is "easier" because it's less thorough) then how will you pass the requirements for the I-864? The I-864 is usually filed only a few weeks after entry on a K-1, and if you can't then meet those requirements then, the person who entered the US on the K-1 will be required to leave. So then why would an embassy issue a K-1 visa? It's the reason why most of them use the I-864's "standards"

I've never heard of an embassy using the I-864 at the time of the interview since the I-864 is used in adjusting status once here, but if Lima requires it, then yes, it will make a difference. My fiancee's embassy is Caracas, Venezuela, and I emailed them to make sure of what they want (they only want the I-134). You should do the same

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Thanks, Now that I am 100% sure that the income requirement is only $18,375 I am not the least bit worried. I will not have a problem meeting the income requirement. But now that I know exactly what the magick number is I am relaxed for once in the last 90 days.