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emcc   0

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Ok, I am currently waiting on my permanent resident card in the mail, should be about a week or two away. This card along with my work authorization card and travel document should allow me to travel abroad right?

Im an irish citizen but my passport runs out on April 28th, im planning to travel April 15th til May 15th. I should have my permanent resident card by then. My question is can i travel without my passport? Im getting all my paperwork ready to ship for a renewal but they need to have the old passport in order to give me the new one.

Im travelling to Belgium from the US. Probably through Canada. I still have an ID card from Belgium and i have a travel document for the US, but will that help me when flying into canada?

Im super confused!

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Boiler Grand Master

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You need to renew your passport.

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happyblessedme   12

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Ok, I am currently waiting on my permanent resident card in the mail, should be about a week or two away. This card along with my work authorization card and travel document should allow me to travel abroad right?

Im an irish citizen but my passport runs out on April 28th, im planning to travel April 15th til May 15th. I should have my permanent resident card by then. My question is can i travel without my passport? Im getting all my paperwork ready to ship for a renewal but they need to have the old passport in order to give me the new one.

Im travelling to Belgium from the US. Probably through Canada. I still have an ID card from Belgium and i have a travel document for the US, but will that help me when flying into canada?

Im super confused!

you can not travel without a passport.

Brother Hesekiel Mentor

Brother Hesekiel   2,236

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You need a valid passport in order to leave the US, whether by plane, car, or submarine. You'll need your Green Card in order to return.

Belgium is a VWP country. Unless they are breaking the rules, the Belgium consulate will require you to show proof of residency when applying for a new passport. For all practical purposes that means you'll have to show your Green Card. A new passport now has to be a biometric one, so expect to wait about 3 to 4 weeks.

As long as your old passport is still valid, you can use it. That probably means you can make it all the way to Belgium. However there you'd have to apply for a new one, and I don't know if they offer any expedited service over there. You'd have to find that out.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

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Boiler Grand Master

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I know Germany requires proof of legal status, UK does not.

Also the German Consulate will give you a one way flight home document, and I have heard that some national airlines will take an expired passport. But all a bit iffy when there is a simple solution.

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Darnell Grand Master

Darnell   8,479

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*** not a K-3 visa topic, moving to General Immigration forum ***

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Brother Hesekiel   2,236

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I know Germany requires proof of legal status, UK does not.

I just recently learned why, and it's so simple that I wonder why I didn't think of it earlier. I tell you how I found out.

German lady lives in Hawaii, entered the US with a B2 in the early '90s. Got SSN, driver license, married, absused, divorced, never filed for AOS. She has a good paying job, owns a condo. Now the state of Hawaii also changed the law regarding renewal of driver licenses so she would have to show proof of legal presence when renewing. So sees no other solution but to move back to Germany, but without being detained and deported.

She needs a valid passport to leave, yet her passport is long expired, so she contacts the German consulate and they tell her that she needs form G-639 from USCIS. Why? Simple.

Say she had been a LPR (which she was not), then naturalized without applying for the dreaded BBG, she would have automatically lost her German citizenship. Thus, the German consulate wants to see either the Green Card or a US passport + BBG before issuing a new German passport to make sure she is even still a German citizen. Thus, even the birth certificate isn't enough; they want USCIS to certify that somebody who is out of status for so long has not become a US citizen yet. For obvious reasons, that's like going into the lions' den and stepping on a lion's tail.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Ok, I am currently waiting on my permanent resident card in the mail, should be about a week or two away. This card along with my work authorization card and travel document should allow me to travel abroad right?

Im an irish citizen but my passport runs out on April 28th, im planning to travel April 15th til May 15th. I should have my permanent resident card by then. My question is can i travel without my passport? Im getting all my paperwork ready to ship for a renewal but they need to have the old passport in order to give me the new one.

Im travelling to Belgium from the US. Probably through Canada. I still have an ID card from Belgium and i have a travel document for the US, but will that help me when flying into canada?

Im super confused!

By travel document do u mean Refugee travel document?

Correct me if am wrong but with a travel document you should be able to travel overseas.

looks like this

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Darnell Grand Master

Darnell   8,479

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travel document should be the 'advanced parole' document.

Your passport is expiring as you are out of USA -

so suggest you reformulate your plan for entering the country -

you'll need a passport to get on the plane to come into the USA.

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Sometimes my language usage seems confusing - please feel free to 'read it twice', just in case !
Ya know, you can find the answer to your question with the advanced search tool, when using a PC? Ditch the handphone, come back later on a PC, and try again.

-=-=-=-=-=R E A D ! ! !=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa Nelly ! Want NVC Info? see http://www.visajourney.com/wiki/index.php/NVC_Process

Congratulations on your approval ! We All Applaud your accomplishment with Most Wonderful Kissies !

 

Boiler Grand Master

Boiler   45,924

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You can leave, it is getting in somewhere else that would be the tricky bit

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nane1104   146

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What is the reason for your trip? If it's kind of an emergency, I am sure you could go to your consulate and ask for an expedite/emergency passport!?!

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