A Day without racism and bigotry

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. Where this bifurcated view leads to can be seen most vividly in the issue of the Japanese War shrine. Why would the Japanese Prime Minister have to refrain from visiting the shrine if their is no such thing as collective historical guilt. Why is white guilt bad but Japanese guilt good?

PM's visiting Japaneese war shrine was quite the opposite... Heh. Wow. Hahahahahahaha

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Isnt it true about Liberals and White Guilt... Yep You will deny your bigotry for the very reason you stated above.

what is white guilt? i'm white, I have never committed a crime. what exactly am I guilty of?

White Guilt

What the author of that particularly article fails to mention is that the charge of "white guilt" is usually coming from people of a certain political persuasion, namely those who also like to use terms like "reverse racism."

In a way, "white guilt" is the extension of "the white man's burden," a key phrase justifying colonization as a means of civilizing the world.

I know what it means. My point was that I had nothing to do with it. I do not accept responsibility for another person's or group of people's actions.

And my point was not to explain to you what it is but to bring to attention (via your rhetorical question) the way in which certain phrases are used to stigmatize those who do care about the past and are willing to take responsibility for it.

I find it quite interesting that people consider it perfectly reasonable to assume that it is ok if some groups in the world take responsibility for their past actions but others are somehow exempt. Where this bifurcated view leads to can be seen most vividly in the issue of the Japanese War shrine. Why would the Japanese Prime Minister have to refrain from visiting the shrine if their is no such thing as collective historical guilt. Why is white guilt bad but Japanese guilt good?

I do believe that past generations have to take responsibility for the actions of their forefathers because it creates an awareness for injustice and shows that late birth doesn't make you somehow innocent. Also, I believe that it helps prevent making the same stupid mistake again.

couldn't agree with you any less

[KarenCee 3]

I do believe that past generations have to take responsibility for the actions of their forefathers because it creates an awareness for injustice and shows that late birth doesn't make you somehow innocent. Also, I believe that it helps prevent making the same stupid mistake again.

Just out of curiosty, what responsibility could they take? To admit being wrong? I am in full agreement that it would help prevent making the same mistakes again. The white man forced my people off our lands in 1838. Do I hold a grudge? No, but I hope that this atrocity doesn't occur again and education seems to be the one way that I know of to prevent that.

Not trying to be argumentative, just truly curious.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

. Where this bifurcated view leads to can be seen most vividly in the issue of the Japanese War shrine. Why would the Japanese Prime Minister have to refrain from visiting the shrine if their is no such thing as collective historical guilt. Why is white guilt bad but Japanese guilt good?

PM's visiting Japaneese war shrine was quite the opposite... Heh. Wow. Hahahahahahaha

Would you care to elaborate?

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. Where this bifurcated view leads to can be seen most vividly in the issue of the Japanese War shrine. Why would the Japanese Prime Minister have to refrain from visiting the shrine if their is no such thing as collective historical guilt. Why is white guilt bad but Japanese guilt good?

PM's visiting Japaneese war shrine was quite the opposite... Heh. Wow. Hahahahahahaha

Would you care to elaborate?

Hmm Let me see. You want me To go to search news, Just to show you that Japanese War shrine was a symbol of Imerialist Japan, and all the protests against him visiting it for I guess 5 times...Hmmm

No I am not going to do that, I am not going to elaborate

[Fischkoepfin 1]

I do believe that past generations have to take responsibility for the actions of their forefathers because it creates an awareness for injustice and shows that late birth doesn't make you somehow innocent. Also, I believe that it helps prevent making the same stupid mistake again.

Just out of curiosty, what responsibility could they take? To admit being wrong? I am in full agreement that it would help prevent making the same mistakes again. The white man forced my people off our lands in 1838. Do I hold a grudge? No, but I hope that this atrocity doesn't occur again and education seems to be the one way that I know of to prevent that.

Not trying to be argumentative, just truly curious.

Hmm, I think that education about past injustices is an important step, but it would be even more important if the states and the federal government truly acknowledged their complicity. The Cherokee removal is a good example, I think, and the state of Georgia is too reluctant to deal with the issue because they are afraid to offend white voters, many of whom have been conditioned to believe that the past is over. For example, there's the issue of Indian casinos, which is hotly contested (and has been for the past 8 years). The problem is that Georgia tries to pretend that issuing licenses for casinos is somehow disconnected from the Trail of Tears.

I'm not suggesting that the state is pretending that removal never happened, but that they fail to officially draw the right conclusions or in other words taking responsibility. Past injustice cannot be undone, but the consequences can and should be alleviated even if the population resists. The state of Georgia should try in any way possible to highlight the connections between its present actions and its past responsibility. This doesn't need a lot of money, but it would help change the way we feel about past injustice. And if we could stop accusing people of "white guilt" but instead encourage them to acknowledge responsibility, the general public's mindset on the past and its impact on the present and the future changes.

. Where this bifurcated view leads to can be seen most vividly in the issue of the Japanese War shrine. Why would the Japanese Prime Minister have to refrain from visiting the shrine if their is no such thing as collective historical guilt. Why is white guilt bad but Japanese guilt good?

PM's visiting Japaneese war shrine was quite the opposite... Heh. Wow. Hahahahahahaha

Would you care to elaborate?

Hmm Let me see. You want me To go to search news, Just to show you that Japanese War shrine was a symbol of Imerialist Japan, and all the protests against him visiting it for I guess 5 times...Hmmm

No I am not going to do that, I am not going to elaborate

No, I just want to to communicate in clear sentences what you mean by the opposite? The opposite of what? Guilt?

And if you mean the visits are the opposite of guilt, then why does anyone bother to be upset about the PM's unwillingness to accept responsibility for the past? Or to come back to my previous question why should Japaness people feel guilty but Americans shouldn't?

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And if you mean the visits are the opposite of guilt, then why does anyone bother to be upset about the PM's unwillingness to accept responsibility for the past? Or to come back to my previous question why should Japaness people feel guilty but Americans shouldn't?

I personally didnt oppose. So No guilt here no guilt there...

White guilt, especially in US is a more complex stuff. You cannot grasp what it is just from Wikipedia. Read the book "White guilt" By Sheldon Steele. I was released 4-5 months ago. And thats what Im talking 'bout.

We were speaking about different issues.

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[KarenCee 3]

And if you mean the visits are the opposite of guilt, then why does anyone bother to be upset about the PM's unwillingness to accept responsibility for the past? Or to come back to my previous question why should Japaness people feel guilty but Americans shouldn't?

I personally didnt oppose. So No guilt here no guilt there...

White guilt, especially in US is a more complex stuff. You cannot grasp what it is just from Wikipedia. Read the book "White guilt" By Sheldon Steele. I was released 4-5 months ago. And thats what Im talking 'bout.

We were speaking about different issues.

*ROFLMAO*

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

And if you mean the visits are the opposite of guilt, then why does anyone bother to be upset about the PM's unwillingness to accept responsibility for the past? Or to come back to my previous question why should Japaness people feel guilty but Americans shouldn't?

I personally didnt oppose. So No guilt here no guilt there...

White guilt, especially in US is a more complex stuff. You cannot grasp what it is just from Wikipedia. Read the book "White guilt" By Sheldon Steele. I was released 4-5 months ago. And thats what Im talking 'bout.

We were speaking about different issues.

*ROFLMAO*

yer gonna have fun with that one ain't ya?

[KarenCee 3]

I know I shouldn't keep feeding this troll, but it's just so much fun.

Oh yeah, I could have fun with that one, but I'm going to refrain.

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

I know I shouldn't keep feeding this troll, but it's just so much fun.

Oh yeah, I could have fun with that one, but I'm going to refrain.

i wonder if he had any white guilt in the big house

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IT was released. I was talking about the book..

Anyway, Have fun,.

[Ban Hammer 13,656]

IT was released. I was talking about the book..

Anyway, Have fun,.

you wrote a book while in prison? what was it called?

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IT was released. I was talking about the book..

Anyway, Have fun,.

you wrote a book while in prison? what was it called?

That surely IS a witty reply...